<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> David,         Try TuneLab. I have yet to register my version but when I do it's under $40 (US) and very reasonable for someone who is just getting their feet wet with ETD's. I find it a little hard to get started as I haven't yet had time to investigate the procedure. I'm sure that once I do it will rival, equally, the SAT I now use.  I'm also on the list for the SATIII but I may pass if I have TuneLab up and running by then. It seems to me to make sense to carry the tuning program with my customer data base. I'll have virtually unlimited storage space for individualized tunings at a price I can well afford. I can't justify the cost of Cybertuner unless I was relying completely on the machine to do all the work. I really don't think that TuneLab is any less accurate but I'm trying to be fair. Anyway, with these variables, Tunelab seems to make the most sense. Oh, I almost forgot, you'll be missing Cybertuners pianalyzer I think it's called. This feature will help with voicing as I think it gives you a graphic representation of the tonal spectrum of any given note. I personally think that  you can do a very similar substitute with a spectrum analyzer that is available as either freeeware or shareware in many different sites on the Web.                                         Greg Newell P.S. Flame suit is at the ready. What do the rest of you think? Am I all wet? David Ricketts wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> <pre WRAP>G'day As this is my first venture into the cyber lunchroom I feel I should introduce myself.  My name is David Ricketts I'm a Australian living in the Southern High Lands of NSW. I tune & run a work shop repairing u/p mostly, my practise takes me all over the sthn Hi Lnds and the Illawarra. I average 900 klm a mth.  I'm a member of the NSW PTTG and have been a member of the board for many years. I would like to thank the owner/operator/web-master for this very useful resource, the info is just great, and I now look forward to reading the list. My 1st ? to the brains trust is this. Is there any other manufactures of ETDs other then the big 3 ie. SAT, Cyber tuner & Yamaha. I have decided to invest in 1. I'm getting a bit sick of pitch raise the hard way. We do alot of that in the bush. Thanks. David F. Ricketts. </pre> G'day As this is my first venture into the cyber lunchroom I feel I should introduce myself.  My name is David Ricketts I'm a Australian living in the Southern High Lands of NSW. I tune & run a work shop repairing u/p mostly,   my practise takes me all over the sthn Hi Lnds and the Illawarra. I average 900 klm a mth.  I'm a member of the NSW PTTG and have been a member of the board for many years. I would like to thank the owner/operator/web-master for this very useful resource, the info is just great, and I now look forward to reading the list. My 1st ? to the brains trust is this. Is there any other manufactures of ETDs other then the big 3 ie. SAT, Cyber tuner & Yamaha. I have decided to invest in 1. I'm getting a bit sick of pitch raise the hard way. We do alot of that in the bush. Thanks. David F. Ricketts.     <pre WRAP></pre> </blockquote> </html>