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<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Hi
!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>It Is
for uprights pianos probably ; I used one, in fact the effort asked =
to the
arm is less grand because of the posture.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>You
have to take off the bottom board and stand really the most parallel you =
can
with the piano.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>The
feedback in the palm of the hand is absolutely less precise than the one =
with
the fingers, I've find too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>But it
may be my favorite hammer for pitch raises or chip tunings, for speed =
reason and
less tiredness.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>What
makes it difficult to control is the lack of good feeling when =
pushing on
the handle, but I never used a pear shaped or oblong one, only bowl
shapes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=585084520-21082004>I am persuaded a handle that is pear shaped =
but only
slightly larger than usual hammers may be good, one may be able to hold =
it with
the fingers only if necessary (the palm of the hand tend to put =
permanent
pressure on the lever, and in fact, the part of the fingers that push to =
hold
the bawl is not very sensitive</SPAN>,<SPAN class=585084520-21082004> =
and the
pal itself does not "hold" the bowl, it only lay on
it.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=585084520-21082004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>There
is also something with the equilibrium that bother me a little. It =
always seem
appealing to all my colleagues, but none have find it really very =
accurate,
probably because the use of the palm of the hand.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Funny
as we may use our fingers a lot without noticing =
eventually.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I am
not to say it is not possible to use it of course, but it really seem to =
forward
less information.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
actually hold my Yamaha tuning lever with 3 fingers, more or less to be =
far on
the handle, the feedback is good enough (for fine or usual tuning =
indeed, if I
have to turn a lot a more standard posture is used)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>On
verticals the round shape allow to go fast from one tuning pin to the =
other,
with a balancing move of the key but the fit on the pin is not always =
ideal
then.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>With a
standard tuning lever (on verticals) one have to learn to go very =
fast
around the tip of the lever with 3 fingers ( like when snapping the =
fingers) and
move the hammer while holding it that way. That avoid a lot of neck and =
back
problems (you have if you keep your ankle up while moving the hammer) =
and you
have always a good fit on the tuning pin. Idem, for verticals, a 3 =
fingers
holding at the top of the handle is well for me. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>But I
spend years and years holding my handle in a perfect parallel motion
before I understood that anyway the pin is twisting =
!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>I
consider that a firm holding is good up to some point, but at a certain =
moment
one have to produce so small changes in pin twist and pressure that the =
firm
holding is not accurate enough. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>So
whenever possible a holding that allow to tune up to the final little =
moves is
giving you some advantage.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Nowadays, definitively, if your playing hand does not tune =
also, only
half of the job is possible. I am persuaded that some pianists put some =
notes in
tune when working the piano (rehearsal for instance), they force the =
note till
the tone please them, eventually and leave it where it is after =
that (when
possible).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>As a
note well tuned is stronger, they don't have to play is so strong after =
that,
they'll be amazed if you tell them what they do ! (some knows it of =
course) same
sexy idea that the pianist that knows when somebody else have played his =
own
piano, that something is different.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Best
regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=585084520-21082004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff =
size=2>Isaac</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> =
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la part de</B> Gevaert
Pierre<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> samedi 21 août 2004 =
22:33<BR><B>À :</B>
Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: Rosewood tuning
lever/hammer<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just used one o</FONT><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2>f those ball type tuninglevers (from Jahn) on a grand and it =
felt quite
unconfortable to me. Maybe I should try a few more times to get used to =
it and I
suppose the technique is different than with a standard
tuninglever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've heared that it has more advantages =
when tuning
uprights?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use the rosewood lever from Schaff =
also but the
Jahn looks more precise and solid to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pierre Gevaert</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Belgium</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 21, 2004 =
2:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Rosewood tuning
lever/hammer</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 =
face=Arial size=2
PTSIZE="10"
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Greetings,<BR><BR> &nbs=
p;
I use a Rosewood hammer from Schaff. I like it. By the way, what is =
the
advantage of a hammer with a ball type lever?<BR><BR><BR>Julia =
Gottchall,
<BR>Reading, PA</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>