<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">David,<DIV><BR = class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV>I appreciate your suggestions. = Humidity and heat are huge factors where they live. Yet you would = think that their local university with its conservatory would do better, = like maybe with climate control. Culture probably plays a part. = She says that in the last 16 years exactly 16 students have graduated = from the conservatory. Finishing is not popular there while starting = often is. So I'm guessing that your suggestions #3 - #6 are probably = the leading causes.</DIV><DIV><BR = class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Arlie = Rauch<BR><DIV><BR><DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR = class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" = style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: = </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px = Helvetica"><A = href="mailto:pianotech-request@ptg.org">pianotech-request@ptg.org</A></F= ONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" = size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" = style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">January 4, 2006 3:10:25 PM = MST</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" = size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: = #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" = style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></FONT></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:06:51 -0600</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">From: David Vanderhoofven <<A = href="mailto:david@vanderpiano.com">david@vanderpiano.com</A>></DIV><= DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">To: Pianotech <<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: Re: Tuning Standard</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Message-ID: <<A = href="mailto:6.1.0.6.2.20060104125634.0229d8f0@pop.directnic.com">6.1.0.= 6.2.20060104125634.0229d8f0@pop.directnic.com</A>></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">In-Reply-To: <<A = href="mailto:DDCB0461-444A-4303-A46C-4607125A911F@midrivers.com">DDCB046= 1-444A-4303-A46C-4607125A911F@midrivers.com</A>></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">References: <<A = href="mailto:DDCB0461-444A-4303-A46C-4607125A911F@midrivers.com">DDCB046= 1-444A-4303-A46C-4607125A911F@midrivers.com</A>></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; = format=flowed</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">MIME-Version: 1.0</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Precedence: list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Message: = 1</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Arlie,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Short answer, and sorry about = the lack of time for a full answer.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: = 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Technicians who don't know = how to do pitch raises or how to sell pitch<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">raises.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Musicians who don't care that = their piano is 1/2 step flat and/or don't<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">want to = pay for the pitch raise.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Pianos with extreme rust and = the technician is afraid of replacing<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">broken = strings</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">4<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Pianos with extreme rust and = the customer doesn't want to pay for<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">replacing broken strings</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">5.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Worn out, moth-eaten, rusted = out hulks that have received almost no<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">service = and the cost of the pitch raise would be more than the value of the<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">piano.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">6.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Structural damage to the = piano and the piano couldn't take the extra<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">tension = on the strings without serious damage.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Must my 2 = cents:<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>A piano that is = 1/2 step flat is not suited for use by a<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">musician = or student.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>A piano = needs to be at the correct pitch for<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">ear-training, music lessons, performances and playing with other = musical<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">instruments or recordings.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>It doesn't make sense to me = to leave a piano<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV= style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">1/2 step flat unless the client is unwilling or = unable to pay for the pitch<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">correction.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>And if the = customer is unwilling to pay for the pitch<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">correction that is necessary, they are also unlikely to pay for any = other<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">needed service the piano needs.</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Just = some ideas off of the top of my head.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">Sincerely,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">David A. Vanderhoofven</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">Registered Piano Technician</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; = margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Joplin, = MO</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: = 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">At 12:14 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE = type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">A friend in Brazil has been = talking to me about the possibility of</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; = ">beginning tuning, and I'd be glad to help out.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>But she says that</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">there pianos are generally tuned 1/2 step flat.<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I'm curious about</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">that.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> = </SPAN>Does anyone know why that might be?<SPAN = class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Because of that, she = says</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">they have mostly limited = themselves to keyboards to avoid the obvious</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">pitch/transposing challenges.</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Arlie = Rauch</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; = margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Glendive, MT</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; = ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; ">pianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org/= mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV = style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; = "><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>=