<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html>   Nichols wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> At 12:11 AM 3/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>  I really just want the ETD to help with pitch-raises and hard-to-hear tonality. Dave Foster</blockquote> Then TuneLab is the program for you. I've been tuning aurally for...... well.... a very long time. Spinning displays (SAT and RCT) are slower than ears, so.... I like TuneLab for the spectrum display and price. I use the program quite sparingly, but it is real handy in high noise situations, or for matching dueling pianos. It also works well in the backround while I tune aurally. Later, Guy</blockquote> Hmm... dont know if I agree with this, tho I am a Tunelab 97 user myself. First off, I havent used any Pocket PC program so I am not speaking directly to a comparison of those. But I have after some years of experience with ETD's found that I can tune easily as fast with them as with out.  Its interesting really, as I used to think otherwise. Yet I have found that the mastering of ETDs follows some of the same paths that mastering aural tuning did. One does get faster with them... over a period of years, not just months. And one does easilly fall into that same pitfall of looking for too clean a resolution, this time with a visual twist. Actually, for real bonified big time pitch raises, I get a faster job done now with the  ETD then without. Still, I remain generally careful to use ETD's in such a manner that my tunings are very much ear dependant. Dont want to loose my ability to navigate in the dark as it were. :) RicB   -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway <A HREF="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A> <A HREF="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A>  </html>