<html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> Hi, Don= :       =       What can I say- I could have flaked off the whole finish.  The damaged = area just kept getting bigger and bigger.  I’ve had enough = experience to know what polyester is like, and this specimen was different.  = Normally, polyester is very well adhered to the wood (and color) and it is nearly impossible to remove the clear poly without disturbing the color and/or = veneer.  This was different.  The topcoat was tinted, very thin, and not at = all adhered to anything underneath, like normal polyester is.  I = remember calling about it the next day to find out what it was I was dealing = with.  However, it was some time ago, and if I’m mistaken with my = information, I apologize.  I don’t remember who told me about the = finish.  I guess I’ll have to retract my statement, since you’d be the = one to know!  Really, though, there are some = weird things in finishes these days.  The digital pianos have some = difficult finishes to repair, and some really are as I described, = shrinked-on.  We’ve had some units that had to be returned, since the finish had pulled off, = and under so much tension that it would have been impossible to repair (over particle board).        =       Best,       =       Paul McCloud       =       San Diego       =         -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Donald Mannino Sent: Monday, August 04, = 2003 9:42 PM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: Kawai = Polyester Repair   Paul, I'm not sure what your information source is here, but Kawai does not = use any kind of finish as you described.  Shrink finish separated from an underlayment by wax????   If a piano was flaking near a repair = area, it was very likely loosened by the damage - you flake away anything = loose, then repair it. Kawai grands have standard polyester resin finishes.  In ebony = polish pianos there is a resin finish backer which is grey in color under the = black finish.  On wood finish pianos there is a catalyzed varnish sealer = under the polyester.  On satin finishes another varnish top coat is = applied which is rubbed out. Don Mannino At 06:30 AM 8/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: I've had a lot of experience with polyester, = but I think the finish you're dealing with isn't polyester.  Kawai has been using a = different process on their high gloss pianos of late.  It is a kind of = shrink process, and the underlayment is separated from the topcoat by wax. Call Don Mannino and ask him about it.  I once examined a rosewood = Kawai piano that I was going to touchup, but declined the job when I was = able to flake off the finish around the damaged area.  You are likely = looking at a new replacement lid.  Good luck. <x-tab>        </x-tab>Paul = McCloud <x-tab>        </x-tab>San = Diego -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<a = href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora=autourl>mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Julio Barea Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:07 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Kawai Polyester Repair I recently attempted an edge repair on a lid for a Kawai RX-2.  = This is a polyester finish. I have been doing polyester for a while now but = I could not get this repair to take.  I kept burning through the = beveled edge to the red underneath. Anyone who is very experienced in poly repair would be a great help to me with any advice.  I intend to = focus on finish repair as the core of my business. The products I use exclusively are Konig. --- "Those of us who dance appear insane to those who can't hear the music."  George Carlin "I am prepared to meet my maker.  Whether my maker is = prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me, is another matter." Winston Churchhill. ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos = Mail! <a href="http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005" = eudora=autourl>http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005</a><b= r> _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora=autourl>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora=autourl>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> = </div> </body> </html>