<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:st1 = = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't be afraid Marshall. Everyone = there wants to help you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotune05@comcast.net href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05@comcast.net</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 11, = 2006 10:27 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Upgrading.....JUST = DO IT!</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ron,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Before I can even take the exam, i need to = master the repair end first right?  I'm getting that training starting next month.  I'm looking forward to it.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>ps. It sounds scarey having someone grade the = tuning, but necessary I agree.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px = solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "RON MAY, RPT" <<A = href="mailto:ronmay_rpt@bellsouth.net">ronmay_rpt@bellsouth.net</A>>= <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } </STYLE> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"></o:SmartTagType> <STYLE> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <STYLE>  </STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Marshall and all other Associates.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you have had any training in = tuning, get in touch with several of the RPT's in your group. Have them check your = tuning. Don't be afraid--they are there to help not hurt.  If they = think you are anywhere ready for the tuning exam, TAKE IT. It will be the = best (I think it is ) $90 bucks you have or will spend. If you flunk the = test like many do you will still walk away from the test knowing all of your = weak spots and know what to work on. PLEASE--Don't anyone be afraid to = take the tuning exam it is a very positive and encouraging happening. All of = the testers just want to help you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>INCOME:  I am among many that = will tell you that your income will take a dramatic jump.  Why, I suspect = that it is in the gaining of confidence. You will all of a sudden know that = you are pretty good at what you do and you will get paid for = it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ron May. RPT</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotune05@comcast.net href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February = 11, 2006 7:53 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: = Upgrading.....</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've heard quite a bit about = upgrading.  I'm going to m first meeting on the 21st of the month, and I can = hardly wait. :)  My question to you guys is this, how long should an = associate wait until they become an RPT?  Perhaps there's a comfort = zone factor involved with some associates, fear of taking the test etc.  = I'm just guessing of course, but perhaps there's a fear a failure.  I = know I personally struggle with this, but at the same time, I'm = determined to become an RPT.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>So the big question at hand is this for = those who are complaining about associates who 've been associates for a = while, what must a person do in order to prepare themselves for the PTG exam = besides go to the meetings and learn?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Perhaps if the fear factor was removed for = those who face it, associates might consider with open arms the availability = of becoming an RPT.  In my case, I'm just excited to become an associate, but I fully intend to become an RPT ASAP, but I'm going = to take my time at it however.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>So the issues at hand is, helping those = overcome the fear factor plus giving associates room to grow into their RPT = shoes so to speak, doing this while gently prodding them along toward the RPT = hall of technician fame. ;)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=john@formsmapiano.com = href="mailto:john@formsmapiano.com">John Formsma</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech List'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February = 11, 2006 12:06 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: = Upgrading.....</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Ron,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was = just about to send what I wrote to Dean when your post hit my inbox. = You have said it so well that it totally eclipsed mine so I�m not = sending it now. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN = style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes, = yes � there must be a way to promote excellence. And, �Craftsman� = and �Certified� are much more descriptive. I prefer either of = those to �Registered.�<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Isn�t it a problem that PTG comes up with the terms, but it�s we who have = to do the educating? We don�t have much time for that. Is there a way = PTG could educate the piano playing populace? I�m thinking, wow, that = would be hard. The first step could be beginning at the university and = piano teaching guilds, and hopefully it would filter down after a = while. But before that, you would have to <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">demonstrate</SPAN></I> that PTG = people are generally more skilled. (There will always be exceptions, of = course.) I don�t think you can do that as it is currently set up unless = you get rid of the Associate status. Wow, big situation when you start to = think about it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">BTW, = How many different places are you registered to vote in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place = w:st="on">Florida</st1:place></st1:State>? <g><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">John Formsma<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" = align=center><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] = <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>RON MAY, RPT<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> = Friday, February 10, 2006 10:27 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Pianotech = List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Upgrading.....</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi People</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Until the day = comes that the public  becomes educated,  aware and demands expertise = and professional performance or heaven forbid the government becomes = involved and demands licensing such as that demanded for other  trades such as plumbers and electricians, we are just = lighting a fire under and empty skillet. Now that anyone can = show themselves as a member of PTG and we have come up with = "Registered" members, which no one has the slightest idea about instead off = craftsman ratings or some other descriptive rating there is only one = motivation and that is from within.. Unfortunately not very many seem to = have this motivation or pride in their work and profession. = Whether we are RPTs, Certified Tuner Technicians,or craftsman, getting = the message out is up to we individual technicians and most of us = are busy and have become very complacent about th! e problem. To me Certified says a whole lot more than registered. I'm = "Registered" to vote in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Florida</st1:place></st1:State> and we all know what = that means but obviously some don't know how to do it.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We as PTG just = continue to shoot ourselves in the foot on this issue. Something needs = to be done and it needs to become a priority.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ron May</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; = BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: = 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: black 1.5pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; = BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original = Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV style="font-color: black"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT = face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=avery1@houston.rr.com href="mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com">Avery</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Friday, February 10, 2006 4:37 = PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: Upgrading.....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This subject HAS been on ptg-L. For DAYS!!!!!!!!!! Weeks? :-( <BR><BR>Avery = <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE= ></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>