<HTML>In a message dated 11/20/01 4:07:43 AM Central Standard Time, dnereson@dimensional.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yes, some of the items perpetuate a stereotype, but women do the same with men, and so do TV commercials, </BLOCKQUOTE> TV commercials that are degrading to men are those that show them as complete idiots when it comes to laundry, cooking, or taking care of a baby. Not to brag, but when it comes to taking care of the house, the laundry, cooking, and the baby, the only thing I cannot do is breast feed a baby. Women would never put up with commercials showing them not knowing how to mow the grass, change a spark plug, or fix the screen door. Just because I have never seen my wife do these things, doesn't mean women can't. Wim </HTML>