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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My main thing with Damp Chasers is that =
only one
surface of the board is being treated. To me, this sets up tension =
on
either side of the board. Just my HO.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Artisan of =
Wood<BR><A
href="http://www.JamesGrebe.com">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 =
Raspberry
Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A
href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=i1ex@earthlink.net href="mailto:i1ex@earthlink.net">ilex =
cameron
ross</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 16, =
2004 11:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Environmental =
tuning
mysteries: solved, hopefully</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>*shrug* i run into it all the time, both the Kawai story (in =
regards to
their stability) and the Steinway one (i'm in GA - woohoo what a =
climate!
it's rare that at this time of the year i do anything other than =
dropping
pitch). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>my
question i would like to pose is this: does anyone have any arguments
*against* dampp chasers? as a pianist, i grew up playing a little =
kawai
upright that is now 25+ yrs old and still like new - upon its first =
regulation
ever (after about 22 or so years), it really didn't need anything =
except an
adjustment of the letoff. it holds its tune for years on end, both a =
testament
to kawai, as well as to dampp chaser, as we have had a full system in =
the
piano since it was purchased, and have religiously kept it watered. i =
ask
about arguments against dampp chasers, because my current employer has =
actually been discouraging people here from using them, due to the =
climate. on
one hand i can understand the point that if people get a full system
installed, water the piano fairly well for the first few months and =
then start
forgetting, it may cause more harm than good. however, i still don't =
really
get it. he's also raised points that you don't really need the =
humidifier
system here, but that the dehumidifier might overdo it.... uhm, it was =
my
impression that the whole "climate CONTROL system" aspect =
included a
thermostat that actually sensed when it needed to work? i'm not all =
THAT
familiar with dampp chasers, except for my own positive experience as =
a
pianist. are there any negatives of using this, or what? =
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>thanks, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=310102604-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>ilex</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Marcel
Carey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 17, 2004 12:05 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Environmental tuning mysteries: =
solved,
hopefully<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=437010504-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Dampp chaser with undercover.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=437010504-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=437010504-17092004><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Marcel Carey</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On =
Behalf
Of </B>Piannaman@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> September 16, 2004 11:38
PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Environmental tuning
mysteries: solved, hopefully<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 PTSIZE="10">Esteemed list =
scholars and
such, <BR><BR>I don't know how many of you remember the case =
of the
corroding strings on a brand new Kawai Rx-3 I encountered in =
January of
this year. I followed up by strongly suggesting that they =
stop
mopping the radiant concrete floor with a vinegar-water =
solution(acid
steam beath), which they did. I thouroughly cleaned the =
strings,
tuned the piano a couple of times, and went back a week ago, and =
voila--no
more corrosion! Not only that, the bloody thing was so close =
to
being in tune I almost felt badly taking the money--well, not =
really...
<BR><BR>#2. I've been tuning a Steinway M that has new =
strings,
hammers, pins, block, wips, but I'm not sure about the board.
She's a very good customer, gets her piano tuned every =
6
months like clockwork. I first tuned the piano 2 years ago, =
and
today was my fourth trip out. First time, it was 10-15 cents =
flat.
Second time, it was 10 cents or so sharp, third time, 10 =
cents flat;
today 5-10 cents sharp. I do know how to stabilize a piano, =
so this
was a mystery to me. At least until I heard the air =
conditioner go
on. <BR><BR>It's been hot in these parts lately, and pianos =
are
going flat in droves(the houses in this part of CA are built for
earthquakes, not inclement weather), but in the case of this =
piano, it's
in a very large luxury home, with all the amenities. =
Unfortunately,
the piano is directly under a duct that dumps cold, moist air =
directly on
it. I'm convinced that is what's going on here. In the =
winter,
the heat comes out of the same duct, but to slightly less effect, =
since
the heat rises. The duct is now permanently closed. =
More
details next time. <BR><BR>Any comments or thoughts on this one?
Just thought it was kind of interesting. <BR><BR>Dave =
Stahl
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