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size=3>You wrote
(about contig 3rds)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Tune C#3 about as fast above A3 as your watch ticks (if your =
watch is
4 bps like mine), or maybe barely faster. Absolute accuracy IS =
NOT
essential at this step.</DIV>
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size=3>Don't you
mean tune C#4 above A3? Isn't C#3 below A3 on the keyboard =
and
therefore a minor sixth? ---ric </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On =
Behalf Of
</B>BobDavis88@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:28 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: Hearing =
beats
(corrected)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 8/21/2004 7:15:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mkurta@adelphia.net writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px =
solid"><FONT
face=Arial>article in print that relates words to beat speeds, =
i.e.
mississippi being a four beat per second =
indicator</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV>How fast you say Mississippi depends upon whether or not you're =
from
Mississippi ! Words like that are useful mostly for comparing rates =
rather
than establishing them. With a good temperament system like =
the
contiguous thirds, there's really no reason to know how to count =
7.9463 beats
per second, as everything is done by comparison. An F-A third is not =
the same
from one piano to the next anyway.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For instance:</DIV>
<DIV>Tune A4, then A3 and A2. Most people can tune a =
reasonably usable
octave, even without tests, but there are all sorts of aural
comparison tests available to tune any type of octave that seems
appropriate.</DIV>
<DIV>Tune C#3 about as fast above A3 as your watch ticks (if your =
watch
is 4 bps like mine), or maybe barely faster. Absolute =
accuracy IS
NOT essential at this step.</DIV>
<DIV>Tune F3 so C#3-F3 is a little faster. F3-A3 should be faster yet. =
Readjust only two notes, C#3 and F3, until the speeds seem to increase =
evenly.
Even now don't worry about the absolute. </DIV>
<DIV>Tune C#4 and F4 as octaves. Play contiguous 3rds over the =
two
octaves. Don't count, just listen to the speeds increase. Extending it =
into
the second octave like this usually makes mistakes start to stick =
out
like a sore thumb. For instance, if you got the lower C# and F =
just
a squeak high, there will be a big jump between C#3-F3 and =
F3-A3. A
surprising amount of refinement can be done without any counting, but =
NOW you
can use the Mississippi/University 4:5 business I talked about in =
another
post to get even closer. This is easiest in the lower octave where the =
beats
are slower. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I like to alternate between crude and refined tuning. Tune the =
octaves
quickly until they sound good, then use the fine tests to nail them =
down, then
leave them as anchors. Tune the thirds quickly, listen to what they =
tell you,
then use finer and finer comparisons to nail them down and leave them. =
>From this point on, you can't go very far wrong.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob Davis</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>