<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">  <title>Re: Pinblock fitting revisited</title> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Ted,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I didn’t follow this previous = thread, so if this has already been discussed, please = forgive.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> How long have the new strings been = in the piano and how many tunings have been done since it was first at proper = pitch?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Are the sections equally out of = tune and need a pitch raise? I.e., the bass, tenor, and treble are all 20 cents = flat?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> John = Formsma<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ted Simmons Sent: Monday, February = 06, 2006 8:08 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Pinblock = fitting revisited<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> It's a 1925 Chickering Grand beautifully rebuilt.  And it = has tuning pin bushings, so none of the tuning pins are touching the plate. =  (It's beginning to seem like I'm worrying = about nothing). Ted Simmons<o:p></o:p> From: = Erwinspiano@aol.com Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech@ptg.org> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 = 20:31:41 -0500 (EST) To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Pinblock = fitting revisited<o:p></o:p> <blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <o:p> </o:p>  Ted   What kind of piano & are if there are no plate bushings = are the pins touching the plate?   Yamaha pianos have very little block contacting the flange. = Ask any one who has replced one.  Dale<o:p></o:p>   I guess I didnšt explain myself too well in my = previous post on pinblock fitting.  The answers I received so far ignored = the fact that the pinblock to plate flange fit had gaps in it and implied that = frequent tunings is the only solution.  What I need to know is if there is a situation where the pinblock to plate fit doesnšt matter.  This = is contrary to all Išve been told and all Išve read about over the = years.  All replies will be appreciated. Ted Simmons Whatšs the latest on whether or = not a pinblock should butt against the plate flange?  I have a customer = who has a rebuilt piano that wonšt hold tune for even a day and when I removed = the action and checked the pinblock-to-plate fit I found gaps throughout, = some as much as 1/8 inch.  Two weeks after I tuned it I found it over 20 = cents flat and had to give it a pitch raise.  A few weeks later it was = overly flat again and in need of a pitch raise.  I explained to the = customer about the pinblock to plate flange fit but he said that he was told by = the rebuilder that such a thing was not important.  To top it off he = did some research and got conflicting comments.  Some said the piano is OK = as is while others held to the conviction that the gaps in the pinblock are = the problem with his piano.  I need some backup in my assessment, = either pro or con. Ted Simmons <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Viera</st1:City>, = <st1:State w:st="on">Florida</st1:State></st1:place> <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </blockquote> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html>