<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Rich,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    I'm afraid you will = never see the kind of standardized terms you seek.  Speaking as a former auto = mechanic and shop owner, our industry has wrestled with the same problem = for many, many years.  We are still no closer to clearing up the waters = regarding rebuilding, restoring, reconditioning, refurbishing, etc, = etc.  Things have stayed blurred for so long, that it is now impossible to = give the proper meaning to these terms.  I guess the real reason is that = there are those who foster confusion for their owns ends, who will take the lead = in defining,  and the public in general doesn't really care = much.  Inertia.....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>    Mike = Kurta</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=classictouchent@comcast.net href="mailto:classictouchent@comcast.net">Classic Touch Ent</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 13, 2003 = 8:50 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: stickers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>All,<BR><BR>Is the real issue stickers? or is it = agreeing that significant departure (especially those not easily reversible) from = original design and /or material be (permanently) documented so that future = owners can determine the desirability of these features to their = satisfaction?<BR>If not stickers, I'm sure an appropriate solution can easily be found by = individuals as creative as those submitting contributions to these = pages....<BR><BR>I know I would appreciate having some sort of documentation (perhaps = something like carfax) that would provide <I>specific </I>information regarding 'refurbishing', 'rebuilding', and 'restoration' ( the meanings of = these terms have become so blurred through misuse<BR>and utter lack of = documentation as to be rendered near meaningless ) <I>. </I>Items could include stringing = (type and manufacturer), soundboard<BR>(repaired, replaced, rib/compression = crowned, original ribs/bridges design or altered), hammers/shanks/flanges, = whippens, keys,<BR>legs/lyre, finish, etc.. Name of technician(s) and date of = repairs and alterations and of course Manufacturer & serial number. = <BR><BR>This has the potential to elevate the reputation and integrity of the craft = and industry as a whole.<BR><BR>I'm going to go duck under the piano now = in anticipation of the stampede of support for my = suggestion.<BR><BR>Best, Rich Olmsted<BR><BR><BR><BR>On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 07:14 AM, Farrell wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Tacky, tacky, tacky. That's like putting stickers on a = fine piece of jewlery indicating the source of the diamond, gold, clasps, = etc.<BR><BR>Terry Farrell<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- = <BR>From: "Dave Nereson" <davner@kaosol.net><BR>To: <pianotech@ptg.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 3:32 = AM<BR>Subject: stickers<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I think the general thought is OK, maybe good. But actually putting stickers on a nice piano........ tacky come to = mind. Something stamped on the action - OK. Something stamped on the = soundboard (underneath) - OK.<BR><BR>Just some rambling = thoughts.<BR><BR>Terry Farrell<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Samicks and other Asian pianos have = stickers on the inside of the rim: Delignit pinblocks, King George (or whoever) = hammer felt, Laoureux (or whichever) damper felt, etc. etc.<BR><BR>-Dave = Nereson, RPT<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>pianotech = list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK= QUOTE></BODY></HTML>