<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I work for a very large dealer in the Los Angeles area. He sells both YC and Weber. I install 8 to 10 pianomation systems a month and most are installed into Bergmann and Weber TG 150s. I remove the keybeds on all installs that permit it. Without looking at the fallboard I cannot tell the difference between the the two (other than the Weber has brass caps on the bottom of the leg). The Rieger Kloss 157 and 185 are Young Chang (Korea) products. All of the action and damper components are manufactured by Renner. The manufacturer states that the pianos are made in Eastern Europe but I don't believe it. The pianos are YC and shipped in YC crates. Lee Sankey LarryinAtlanta@AOL.COM wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>In a message dated 4/29/02 6:04:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Lsankey@cox.net writes:     <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The Bergmann product has steadily improved  and is a good product for the money. The Weber is essentially the same piano but is marketed by a different company.</blockquote> Only two models of Weber grands, a 5'2 and a 5'9 are Bergmanns. The 4'11", 5'7". 6'1", and 6'10" are Korean made. Also, there are three models called the Special Edition Series - 5'2", 5'7", and 6'1" which are in essence Prambergers.   Larry</blockquote> </html>