<HTML>In a message dated 11/21/02 7:20:37 PM Central Standard Time, avery@ev1.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Besides, don't wippens come with the jack tops already burnished with graphite? Why add more? Am I missing something? Avery </BLOCKQUOTE> On old wippens, the graphite is almost gone. I understand the dangers of grease graphite. The stuff that comes in a spray can comes out as a powder. No grease at all. If you have used a pencil to burnish the top of the jack, then this is the same, only easier to apply. Wim </HTML>