<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you. It appears that this forum = is a gold mine for beginners like me. While I am 65 I fully expect to become a RPT = someday,charlie</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=imatunr@srvinet.com href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">Joe = And Penny Goss</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 03, 2006 = 11:18 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: tools</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Marshall,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The split mute must be trimmed to = work well.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The tips of the mute need to be just = thin enough to go easily in between any two strings of a well spaced unison. and I = reccomend that the tip be trimmed on a taper to 1/4" on one side on a = slant 3/4" o the tip. This allows the mute to nestle closer against the = dampers and let the hammers clear . When the hammers block, raise the dampers with = the damper pedal and insert the mute.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The mute for me is used mainly with = the right hand, so the long blade of the mute is away from you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Basic use is to place the long side = just past the right side of the unison and move the mute left until the right side = clears the right string. Slide the mute in until both right and left strings = are muted.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tune center string.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Remove mute and place both feet on = thr right of the unison.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tune left string to center = string.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Assending move the mute to the right = and mute the center string and tune the left string of the unison that you were tuning.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tune the next unison.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When trimming the mute you do not = want to keep the extreemly fine tip that you have from the supply house. A slightly = thicker tip will last longer but also you will be able to feel the click click = bump of the mute as you move it to mute the next note.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Muting at the struts and above F7 = requires some use of the fine tip, and muting two left center. or right center = strings. then tuning the center string to the tuned note and then all three strings = for a unison.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotune05@comcast.net href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 03, 2006 = 5:53 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: tools</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi Gary,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wouldn't a longer head or tip be best for = grands especially in the strut area?  Also, what about a 15 = degrees.  Unless it's a typo, I'm not sure but the R andy Potter course = recommends 17 degrees.  Just some beginning observations on my part.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>ps. I'm not sure why, but I cannot get the = split mute to cooperate.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piano2ba1@att.net href="mailto:piano2ba1@att.net">piano2ba1@att.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 03, = 2006 12:00 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: tools</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>Hi Charles</P> <P>Should you decide seriously to learn the piano trade, the first = thing would be to learn about the piano. I recommend the Arthur Reblitz = book on Piano Technology. Work on cheap pianos first. Get a good set = of tools- no gooseneck tuning hammer. A good hammer from Schaff Piano = Supply should work fine. Get it with a 1" head at 10 degrees and a  = number 3 tip. Use a medium thick wool temperament strip to mute the middle = area and 6 of the 1/2"X 1/2" rubber mutes w/o handles, and a = split mute with flat steel handle for the treble and an = English steel A440 tuning fork. </P> <P> </P> <P>I wish you the best</P> <P>Gary L. Bauchman RPT, PTG<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff = 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Charlie Potter" <charles.potter2@verizon.net>: -------------- <BR><BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am extremely new to tuning = and am trying to learn this profession. Would someone give me a list of tools = I should <A = href="mailto:have.charles.potter2@verizin.net">have.charles.potter2@ver= izin.net</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also does anyone use a peterson = 490st = tuner?</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><!= -- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY --></BODY></HTML>