<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello list.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Let me also propose a spelling for = the pluralization of Steinway.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My logical suggestion depends on what = you mean when you say :"A Steinway", as this never appears to be clear.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you mean a member of the family = called Steinway, like in this excerpt :</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"And never forget you are a Steinway !"</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Henrich Engelhard Steinweg to one = of his sons, when dying in 1871)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial = size=2>then, the plural should be something like :</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"And never forget you are Steinway = bastards !"</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Carl Bechstein (Bechsteinszoon's) = when proposed to sell his company to some US market tenors)</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>But if you mean a grand piano = of the famous make called after it's pattent owner, like in this excerpt = :</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Careful with that = Steinway, Bob !"</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Bob's mother)</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>then, the plural definetly = should be :</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Careful with those = Steinway grand pianos, Bill !"</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Bill's chief purser)</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please notice that neither = the generic noun Steinway, nor the adjective grand get pluralized.  Only the common = noun piano is, as only this refers to the thing that is actually pluralized.</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stéphane = Collin</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>(from the Académie = Française)</FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "gordon stelter" <</FONT><A href="mailto:lclgcnp@yahoo.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>lclgcnp@yahoo.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Pianotech" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:05 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: How to use an = apostrophe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>| Dear List,<BR>|     Kindly allow me to remind = us all that the<BR>| pluralization of Steinway is Steinways, Yamaha is<BR>| = Yamahas, etc.. It is not "Steinway's" or "Yamaha's",<BR>| which is the posessive = form i.e." Steinway's patent". <BR>|      = Respectfully<BR>|      Thump<BR>| <BR>| __________________________________________________<BR>| Do you = Yahoo!?<BR>| Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site<BR>| </FONT><A href="http://webhosting.yahoo.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>http://webhosting.yahoo.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial = size=2>| _______________________________________________<BR>| pianotech list = info: </FONT><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT = face=Arial size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><BR><FON= T face=Arial size=2>| </FONT></BODY></HTML>