<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial>First a disclaimer - I'm = no tuning expert! BUT, that doesn't stop me from sharing my = experience!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have tuned a number of these little five = octave wonders - one just a couple weeks ago along the banks of the flooding Little = Manatee River (inside a home). I don't recall ever seeing a Wurly though. The = ones I have seen seem to have the top and bottom octave chopped off the = keyboard, which puts A4 in the middle of the piano and C7 at the very top. The highest pitch wound string is probably around A3. One of the reasons = the bass on your piano may be all over the place is because there is not really = anywhere to put the bass. I am a "little-black-box" tuner. My first 5-octave = pianos were done with the aid of an AccuTuner. With the SAT you must lend quite a = bit of ear to establish an appropriate stretch for the bass. Coupled with my = general lack of talent related to such a process, trying to determine where the bass = should go on the 5-octave jobs was a very eye-opening (and ear opening) experience. I have tuned a few spinets that I would consider untunable. = However, these little 5-octave jobs require a whole new classification. The bass = section on some of these (all?) are much worse than untunable. Just get it = within a note or so and leave it (slight exaggeration, but not by much). That's as = good as it's gonna get.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I have tuned two (at least) of these little gems = with my Verituner which I have now had for about 1.6 years. The VT does an unbelievably wonderful job on these little things. Overall I would = have to describe its effect as producing an "acceptable" tuning - which is WAY = beyond anything I had ever done on these little pianos.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Paul Chick" <</FONT><A href="mailto:paulchick@myclearwave.net"><FONT face=Arial size=2>paulchick@myclearwave.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Pianotech" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:12 = AM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Wurlitzer = piano.</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>> Hey all,<BR>> <BR>> My name is Paul Chick, Jr.  = Some of you know my father, Paul Chick, Sr.  He<BR>> recently presented = at the Dallas convention about "Tuning in 59 minutes".<BR>> I've been a = careful observer of the list for several months absorbing<BR>> information = and now have a question that I hope someone can answer.<BR>> <BR>> I'm = working on a Wurlitzer piano SN 115191 and measures about 41" high x 40"<BR>> = wide x 21" deep.  It has 61 notes, 5 octaves, C to C.  The question = is:  Is<BR>> the first C C1 or C2 as compared to a "normal" piano?  = Along with this<BR>> question, is this piano "normally" tuned to = A440?<BR>> <BR>> Background:  The piano came in and needed some action work = and key work<BR>> done.  Did that, no problem.  When I went to tune = it, I noticed that the<BR>> base section was all over the place, anywhere = from C1 to C2 in the first 5<BR>> or six notes.  Then when I played = above the break it seemed to be closer to<BR>> a "normal" piano, which, with = only 5 octaves, puts the last note at C7.  So,<BR>> since everything = above the break seemed in relation to each other I tried to<BR>> pull the bass = up to match.  BANG!!!!!  Broken string and I stopped there.<BR>> = I'm wondering if it is possible that somebody else didn't have the answer = to<BR>> the question above and pulled the treble up an octave, which seems not very<BR>> likely, or that this piano normally is not tuned to A440, = which seems<BR>> possible, or the bass strings are supposed to be brought = up to the rest of<BR>> the piano and there is a really good chance that the = rest of the bass<BR>> strings are going to break.  Being new to tuning and = never breaking a string<BR>> before these questions came to mind as I was = cleaning out my shorts.<BR>> <BR>> Any ideas would be greatly = appreciated.<BR>> <BR>> Paul Chick, Jr.<BR>> Plainview, MN.<BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> pianotech list = info: </FONT><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT = face=Arial size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><BR><FON= T face=Arial size=2>> </FONT></BODY></HTML>