<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN = class=217314514-04042002>I talk of steaming wter & oxalic acid directly of = course.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=217314514-04042002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN = class=217314514-04042002>Isaac OLEG</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We had a set of key bushings to = change and found that the old ones were put in with white glue.  We soaked them in = white vinegar. Then we steamed them.  They came out best when still = very warm. Steaming alone did not work well.  We tried the bushing removal = iron, but it didn't do as well as the above combination. We thought at first it = was super glue. Chisaling them seemed the only solution. Then I remembered = vinegar.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul Chick</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Erwinspiano@AOL.COM href="mailto:Erwinspiano@AOL.COM">Erwinspiano@AOL.COM</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 03, = 2002 9:07 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Stubborn = bushings</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Times New Roman Greek" size=3 FAMILY="SERIF">In a = message dated 4/3/2002 2:54:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, <A href="mailto:pdtek@mchsi.com">pdtek@mchsi.com</A> writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff = 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Stubborn bushings </B><BR>Date:4/3/2002 = 2:54:32 PM Pacific Standard Time<BR>From:<A href="mailto:pdtek@mchsi.com">pdtek@mchsi.com</A><BR>Reply-to:<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR>To:<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A><BR><I>Sent = from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR>Dave wrote<BR>Well, I've never had this = much trouble removing key bushings. Just a little water and wall paper = remover and they practically fall off. Maybe a little heat for some, but = these are completely fused to the wood. As one. The few I have removed have = come off with a thin layer of wood. I dropped the bushing into the solution = and after soaking you still couldn't pick the wood apart from the felt.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT = lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Is there a way to remove these without any = wood or am I just going to have to remove some wood and use thicker bushing cloth?</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 = FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>>>>>>No and uh....Yes and the case for hide glue and only hide glue for this application should be abundantly clear. If you can't thank a = factory for this condition how bout a fellow tech? I rest my case.<BR>>>>>>>>>>Dale Erwin>>>>>>>>>>.</FONT><FONT = lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT = lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Times New Roman Greek" = color=#000000 size=3 = FAMILY="SERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTM= L>