<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2722" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes ORGYPOS="0"> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I am most grateful to Providence that in all of my experience, I have only run into one birdie. It was a beautiful Collard, but needed a lot of work and the owners don't even play, so they passed. I think it may be a bar now. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Many of these charming beasts were imported after being stored unused in English warehouses--mostly because (a) the Brits didn't want them, (b) they knew the pretty cases and "old world, antiquey" charm would sell to us bargain-hunting, if somewhat gullible, colonial cowboys, and (c) they are still a little touch about troubles of 1776.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Some say the most beneficial effect of WWII was that all the piano factories in England and Germany that made these things were first converted to war material plants and then destroyed. Is this merely coincidence? You decide.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>So if they are downright popular down there in down under, that's great. They are decidedly not popular, up here in up over.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>With affection for all things Aussie ... </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>G'day Mate.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Alan Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Salem, Overdamper-Free Zone, Missouri</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>P.S. One of Santa's verticly challenged assistants, i.e., elves, was once caught stealing. Punishment being harsh in that harsh land, he was sentenced to be stoned to death. There being a shortage of stones at the pole (and no one particularly desiring to go out searching for some) they merely pelted him to death with toys. From whence arose the expression: Throw another Barbie on the shrimp.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianoman@westnet.com.au href="mailto:pianoman@westnet.com.au">Robin Stevens</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A>;<A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 10/09/2005 10:41:57 AM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Overdamper supporter</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" width="100%"> <DIV> I think that all you... "will not tune overdamper pianos" group should be trained to tune these pianos using Paps mutes or a similar device as part of your RPT exam. You all display your "RPT" status proudly, but, will not work on old pianos! I wonder what you would think if your doctor said to you on your next visit....sorry I only deal with young patients!! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many of these old overdampers are easier to tune, and some have better pin blocks than some underdampers. It only takes a slight change of method. Reading what some of you guys are doing trying to insert your tuning strips is quite comical. You obviously have not heard of the saying...There has to be a better way!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens ARPT</DIV> <DIV>South Australia</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A>; <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 10/09/05 01:14:54</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: Reinbach Piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't work on birdcages anymore but....I remember tipping the action towards me so I could insert temp strips on all the unisons leaving just one string to deal with when tuning.   Then when I couldn't take it anymore, I'd remove the temp strips and do the unisons...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Ilvedson, RPT</DIV> <DIV>Pacifica, California</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original message ----------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV>From: "Will Wickham" <<A href="mailto:wwickham@stny.rr.com">wwickham@stny.rr.com</A>></DIV> <DIV>To: Pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>></DIV> <DIV>Received: 10/8/2005 4:15:09 AM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: Reinbach Piano</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>This isn't my first trip into the birdcage. Great deal of fun. It is</DIV> <DIV>>the first time I've had to resort to muting through the action though.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>Until I either know something about Reinbach pianos in general or this</DIV> <DIV>>beasty in particular, I will keep going back to do my best to make it</DIV> <DIV>>work well!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>will wickham</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>On Oct 8, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Farrell wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>> Don't know anything about Reinbach, but birdcages I have had the</DIV> <DIV>>> displeasure to meet. Make a policy - either run or charge your hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> fee plus a frustration factor. I charge 1.5 times my regular hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> on-site fee ($60 x 1.5 = $90).</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> And make it clear to the owner - you'll tune it, but it is untunable -</DIV> <DIV>>> so don't expect much. Be sure to cover the lecture about upgrading to</DIV> <DIV>>> something like a 1950 Lester spinet or somesuch POS.</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Just curious, why are you going back for a "second crack at it?"</DIV> <DIV>>> Wasn't the first visit scary enough?</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Terry Farrell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A></DIV> <DIV>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD> <TD id=INCREDIANIM vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>