<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I found that when I was tuning a piano, where = these had been </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>previously installed, ( by someone else) they = weren't holding.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Possibly, they held initially, but after a = while, I think they form</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>threads, and then turn too smoothly. I think the = metal to metal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>contact is just not a method that gives a = friction fit.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, = Canada<BR><A href="mailto:piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca">piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca</A>= </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dnereson@dimensional.com = href="mailto:dnereson@dimensional.com">Dave Nereson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 21, 2001 = 4:00 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tuning pin = sleeves.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca href="mailto:piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 20, = 2001 4:05 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Tuning pin = sleeves.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hi List,<BR>I just read where someone, recommended, tuning pin sleeves,<BR>for loose tuning pins.<BR>I personally, have never used = them, after my first try with them<BR>25 years ago. I threw the ones I had = away, as I was unsatisfied with <BR>the result, I found that with the = metal to metal they would not hold.<BR>Are they still a recommended fix for = loose tuning pins?<BR>Has anyone actually, used them and been satisfied = with the results?<BR>Did I possibly use them the wrong way, and have been = unjust in<BR>my condemnation of them?<BR>Regards,<BR>John M. = Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A = href="mailto:piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca">piano.tech@ns.sympatico.ca</A>= </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>They're not the greatest, but if you don't have = any oversize pins in your kit or in the car, and if the pin is really = loose, they'll "get you out of the house".  Sometimes they're too = thick and you can't even drive the original pin back in.  And if the hole = is really worn, sometimes they're not thick enough -- depends on the = wood, type of block, what the present humidity is, etc.  Oh, and usually = the lip that's supposed to keep it from going too far into the hole doesn't = work at all.  They're more for "emergencies", in my opinion.  = --Dave Nereson, = RPT<BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>