<HTML>In a message dated 12/21/01 12:32:48 PM Central Standard Time, Billbrpt@AOL.COM writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Boesendorfer first gained fame in the early 1800s, after contemporaries of Franz Liszt praised it as being the first piano that was able to stand up to the punishment meted out by the Hungarian maestro. </BLOCKQUOTE> I don't know what the AP's definition of "early 1800's" is, but didn't Liszt gain fame until the middle to later 1800"s? Wim </HTML>