<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=2>No Terry, you misunderstand me, the "pitch raise" = itself is the piano tuned sharp, subsequent rough tuning you are tuning from sharp = to correct pitch.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Try and tune a semitone flat piano to A440 in one = go, and you are giving yourself a loss and two hours or more </FONT></DIV> <DIV><BR>Brian</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 10, 2003 = 9:26 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pitch Raise, was: = Standard Pitch</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080>Comments interspersed = below:</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=lawsonic@bdmail.co.za = href="mailto:lawsonic@bdmail.co.za">Brian Lawson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 10, = 2003 2:15 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pitch Raise, = was: Standard Pitch</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Hi, let me say it again, as sometimes I think = I'm writing posts to myself on pianotech.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080>No, I read it, but I don't = understand it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>A pitch raise, my definition:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>The purpose of a pitch raise is have all strings = slightly or more sharp than "standard pitch"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080>The object of my pitch = raises are to have all strings at target pitch.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>A pitch raised piano is an out of tune piano, = but sharp to " standard pitch"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080>Why would you want the piano = sharp? If the client wants their piano at A440, I would recommend that one = tune it to A440, not something sharper.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>unisons are not in tune, 4ths, 5ths octaves are = close or wildly out of tune</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>and that only takes about 15 - 20 = mins!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Then, you do your first rough tune to get it = sounding close. It is because it is easier to tune from sharp to correct = pitch than to pull up from flat</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>shall I go on?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080>Sure. But it seems to me = easiest to tune a piano that is already at target pitch than one that is either = sharp or flat.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Brian</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December = 10, 2003 7:15 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pitch Raise, = was: Standard Pitch</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think there can be such a = beast as a 15 minute pitch raiser. This is an idle boast. I'm with you in = setting this up as a test! I use my patent "quadrant" approach (see post = "Raising Don Rose to Standard Pitch" ) I hope Don will forgive my blatant = use of his name to identify a partic. posting!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Micxgael G (UK)</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>