<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I am pretty sure I responded to = your infomative reply to my question, but just in case I want to make sure so = am writing again.  Bear with me please.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I also suspect that the strings have = nicks or indentations in them. the piano was about 10 cents flat. It had been = moved from Calif to Ore within the last couple of months.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Is there any solution to this other = than restringing?  Any suggestions or additional info will be heartily welcomed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Jack</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Eugene Oregon Chapt</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 15, = 2004 8:18 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: String = challenge</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2 = PTSIZE="10">I tuned a Baldwin H grand the other day with a similar problem.  The piano = hadn't been tuned for years, and was 30-50 cents flat.  I wasn't having = a problem with getting the string to move(solved pretty nicely by = Protek, in my experience), but I was having a hard time moving the string to stay = where it was supposed to in many cases.  I'd get close, then "pop!" =  It would move up above or below pitch.  I suspect that the strings have = small indentations, nicks, or bends in all the wrong places as a result of = being so far flat.   <BR><BR>Could this be the case with your Schimmel? =  Did it require a significant pitch raise? <BR><BR>Dave Stahl <BR><BR>In a = message dated 9/15/04 6:30:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kam544@gbronline.com = writes: <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">At 4:52 PM -0700 9/15/04, TLJ wrote: <BR>>... This is = probably a very simple issue but I am at a total loss.  Any <BR>>suggestions will be appreciated. <BR><BR>Rendering strings = is never a simple issue on pianos that have <BR>exaggerated string = deflection. By rendering I am speaking of <BR>equalizing the tension in all = segments of the strings. <BR><BR>I doubt the agraffes are necessarily your culprits = in this matter <BR>though, but rather the felt between the agraffes and the = tuning pins. <BR>Of course all the bearing points add to the overall = difficulty. <BR><BR>I tune a couple of M&A BBs' with incredible deflection = in that area, <BR>and it creates definite uncertainty in establishing = stability, <BR>especially when a pitch change is required. <BR><BR>There are = some pianos a person just has to work at tuning, and there <BR>are some = where the response of rendering and pin setting is a <BR>marvelous experience. = <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 PTSIZE="12" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" BACK="#ffffff"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2 PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" = BACK="#ffffff"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>