<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Wim and list,     I'll respond the las time on this obviously played out subject by saying the "inspiring confidence" question was originally stated in the post that I responded to first. I was attempting to stay on subject. It's obvious that we will have to agree to disagree here. I do fail to see how the taking of a test has any merit over and above the interaction and discourse between technicians. I am happy that the test is available for those who wish to have a benchmark for their progress. Some simply don't feel that they need it while others seem to wish to insist it is necessary. Again, we will have to agree to disagree. I'll not post on this subject again so I'll say for the last time that I am happy for those who choose to pursue the path of testing as it is valid for them. Still for others I am happy as they choose to forward their personal progress in whatever way they choose. Peace! Greg Wimblees@AOL.COM wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>In a message dated 4/25/01 6:28:02 PM Central Daylight Time, gnewell@ameritech.net writes:     <blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Willem and list,    In my view you did not support the "inspiring confidence" question at all. I presume that we are talking about confidence from the outside world in us and our profession. You wrote nothing to prove that viewpoint.</blockquote> No, I didn't say anything about "inspiring confidence" in the eyes of the outside world. That is because in my view, becoming an RPT is not for the consuming public. In my opinion, becoming an RPT is for each individuals own gratification. I have told many Associates that for the most part, the public doesn't give a hoot whether you're an RPT or not. All the public wants is a tuned piano, and they don't care about initials. Quite honestly, I feel the same way about my doctor, my lawyer or my car mechanic. As long I get what I want, and I the professional does his/her job, I am satisfied. (I presume the doctor and lawyer, and even the car mechanic,  went to school, because that is where they learned how to be a doctor or lawyer, or mechanic. But the education didn't end there. It only started there. The reason I am proud I am an RPT is because I passed an exam that my peers have deemed to be a minimum standard to earn the title RPT. Achieving that title is something I did for my self. (I need to state here that I have had a few calls from customers because of my RPT status, but only because they were educated by another RPT in another part of the country to look for someone who is an RPT). As I have stated, the process of taking the exam makes one a better person. It gives a person a certain sense of "a job well done." It's like the praise you get from a customer who is very happy with the tuning, or regulating, or rebuilding you did.  The money is nice, and pays the bills. But the thanks and the pat on the back is much more rewarding. I'll say it again. Until you have taking, and passed the exams, you won't know what I am talking about. Try it, you'll like it. Willem</blockquote> -- Greg Newell Greg's Piano Forté 12970 Harlon Ave. Lakewood, Ohio 44107 216-226-3791 <A HREF="mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net">mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net</A>  </html>