<html> <body> Hi Ric,               I think Andre and I play from the same page about short cuts on upper end pianos.    There is NO magic bullet.    How ever I think maybe I might be more pragmatic, about things like steam voicing.   <G> Regards Roger At 02:14 PM 5/22/2004, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Roger With all the interesting discussion going back and forth on this and other topics this one slipped by me.  Really good sound advice which was more or less what I was fishing for to begin with.  The magic bullet mentalilty you refer too, seems a bit more wide spread then perhaps it should be. Thanks for the nice listing RicB Roger Jolly wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Seems to me that if laquer first is to be used.. then it should be only because all standard needling up techniques are exhausted and one truely has no other choice. Cheers RicB</blockquote> Hi Ric,             So many tech's are looking for the quick fix magic bullet, and one find it please let me know. For brightness and power, first do all of the following. 1.  A meticulous key bed, fitting. Then do it again to make sure it's right. 2.  First class regulation, and hammer filing/fitting. 3.  If you want it bigger and brighter, another haircut should be considered.  <G> Hammers that is. 4.  Needle and open up the cup line low on the shoulder. 5.  Lift all strings to form a nice firm contact point at agraffe and capo. 6.  Fit all strings to bridge, and make sure false beats are minimal at bridge pins. 7.  Burnish back scales if needed to ensure a reasonable unison to the rear of the notch. 8.  Pitch raise and fine tune. 9.  Re check all your work. 10. Now is the time to evaluate if you need juice,  most often not. Oh I nearly forgot:   Centre pinning of hammer flanges can rob you of a lot of power and brilliance. Add that to the check list. Nice hammer shape is very critical on NY Steinway's. Now back to sleep. Regards Roger</blockquote> _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a></blockquote></body> </html>