<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#d8d0c8> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Cy,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some detective work might be necessary = here as well. But before I get to that, not long ago at a chapter meeting, = demonstrating Knot tying and replacement of string, we decided to re string the = spliced wire. The new wire broke before it was pulled up to pitch. The second try with = the same new wire supply held. Heck wire breaks.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You might read the wire sizes on either = side of the broken wire, as well as the one remaining original un broken wire. You = are looking for past history or mistakes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Remember that unless you have single = tied off wire, eash wire size must span unisons at least two notes at a time, and by a = factor of two. ie A A# (2)or A A# B C (4) etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net = href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David Ilvedson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 16, = 2004 9:20 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Measuring strings = for replacement</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2></FONT>Measure an existing string in = the same unison.  </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2>----- Original message ----------------------------------------><BR>From: Cy Shuster = <<A = href="mailto:741662027@theshusters.org">741662027@theshusters.org</A>&g= t;<BR>To: Pianotech <<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received: = Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:48:31 -0500<BR>Subject: Measuring strings for replacement</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2><BR>O, List: may I ask yet again to = tap in to your collective wisdom?  I need to accurately mic a string, = and/or round up or down a size, depending on which is safer.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I had a treble string break during tuning = yesterday (D#7) on a 1975 Kimball console, right next to E7, which had also apparently = broken years ago (and was fixed by easing a tuning pin's width of string = around the hitch pin).  Unfortunately, this rob-Peter-to-pay-Paul approach = failed; the string broke again at the becket long before it got up to pitch.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>[Side note: the owner had taught piano and had had = it tuned regularly, so I figured the break was due to metal fatigue at the becket.  I was surprised when it broke again at the new becket I = had just made.  Shall I expect more breaks?  Does the steel become = brittle over time, like brass?  There was a 25W DC bar plugged in, so = little string corrosion (and good pin torque).]</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I just bought a multi-anvil, friction, vernier micrometer.  I've measured this string (out of the = piano, in different places) at .037 twice and .035 once.  There aren't too = many straight places; the whole piece is only about a foot = long.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Should I use the biggest size I've measured, = assuming there may be stretching (especially because of the break), or do I need = micrometer lessons?  (Hmm, I should measure the strings on both sides, in = the piano...)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy Shuster--</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Bluefield, WV</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>