<html> Isaac Oleg, Thanks so much for the info.  If it's okay with you, I may email you privately when I get closer to making a decision. thanks, Mickey At 11:33 PM 1/3/02 +0100, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hello, I did not use very long a SAT II, because I switched to RCT soon, but I am actually tuning with a VT 100 since october, and find this tool more artistic in essence. It gives very precise and even tunings without much tweaking, as it take in account the inharmonicity parameters of any note tuned. There is an adjustable strech fonction that can be used on the fly but the result will only apply to the notes you did not tune yet (as the tuning is computed at every new note tuned) unless you ask for. That can be similar to the stretch function I understand is implemented on the SAT III. The unit is a little bigger and heavier, because of the LCD display, you may have it not too far from your eyes, but it reads good. Upgrades comes by the Internet. I like to tune with this tuner way much than with the others I used, because it does not try to force the tuning in a specific one partial curve, that I think is audible, anyway for me ( a little like the sound of the "pure fifths tunings" which is something a little unnatural that we propose to the piano. Anyway I was not able to use RCT or a SAT to obtain a pure fifths tuning , the software could not compute it. The tunings computed by the VT seems to be as a medium stretch very fine aural tuning. I did not try to use it with large stretches, as I feel the way we tune "in the stretch" is different that what the ETD compute. But I always can accept the proposal of the VT100 (some rare exceptions of course but a very few)and it was not the case with the other units (sometime it was a real fight). Hope that helps , don't hesitate to mail me privately if you wish, I feel that the one partial method is very present there and many don't want to see the drawbacks of this. What I was feeling is that the use of the 1 partial EDT's changed the way I tuned to the point I was focusing too much on the partial I choose. But of course I learned a lot and appreciate a lot to have these tools when I used them. Regards</blockquote></html>