<HTML><HEAD></HEAD> <BODY style="BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER= -LEFT-STYLE: none; BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none"> <P>Nothing wrong with a magnetic sign on your car...we are assuming you= can do the work...anyone can hang out a shingle & public beware...= </P> <P><BR>David Ilvedson, RPT<BR>Pacifica, California<BR><BR><BR><BR></P> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 5p= x; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 3px solid; PADDING-TOP: 5px"> <HR> Original message<BR>From: pianotune05@comcast.net<BR>To: "Pianotech Lis= t" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received: 1/18/2006 12:37:53 PM<BR>Subject: R= e: One Piano Per....??<BR><BR> <DIV align=left>Well all pianos need tuning if they haven't been tune= d.  Calling to simply ask to schedule a tuning isn't deceiving a p= otential customer.  If they have one, the'll tell me, or they'll d= iscuss it with the person who handles piano tuning.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for undercutting etc.  If a customer comes to me and asks = for a better rate I'll do it.  My wife and I are in desperate fina= ncial circumstances, and I need the tunings.  I won't knowingly go= to someone else's customer, but if that customer comes to me then that= 's different.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for joing the guild.  I'm in the process of getting my app= filled out. etc.  If anyone here has a better idea than cold call= ing, I'm all ears, but I've done cold calling off and on for about 21 y= ears.  I'm looking into door hangers as well.  </DIV> <DIV>Marshall</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: = #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>F= rom: "Barbara Richmond" <piano57@insightbb.com> <BR><BR>> I vo= te with Phil. There was someone with whom I teamed up with for a bit <B= R>> (against my better judgment and later, much to my regret) and I = witnessed <BR>> him making this type of call. It was not well receiv= ed and because he <BR>> associated himself with me, I caught some fl= ack. What a nightmare. I <BR>> disassociated myself from him as quic= kly as possible, not only because of <BR>> this, but because of some= of his other dubious business practices (trickery, <BR>> etc.). I'm= glad that episode of my life is <LONG>past. <BR>> <BR>> Whew. <B= R>> <BR>> Barbara Richmond, RPT <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- = Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Phil Bondi" <PHIL@PHILBONDI.COM>= <BR>> To: "Pianotech List" <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>> Sent: Wedn! e= sday, January 18, 2006 11:35 AM <BR>> Subject: Re: One Piano Per....= ?? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > James Gr= ebe wrote: <BR>> > <BR>> >> That sounds like a good cold= call tactic. <BR>> > <BR>> > OK - I've heard enough now. I= need to comment: <BR>> > <BR>> > The Piano Technicians Gui= ld Code Of Ethics - Rule#1: <BR>> > <BR>> > I will act hono= rably and in a professional manner. <BR>> > <BR>> > I'm sor= ry - I view cold calling and deceiving a potential client into <BR>>= > thinking they need a piano tuned in violation of Code Of Ethics #= 1. <BR>> > <BR>> > Marshall, if you're not a member of the = PTG, then may I suggest you do so. <BR>> > <BR>> > There ar= e a number of people who are now reading this note from me who <BR>>= > KNOW how strongly I feel about stepping on any toes - I simply wo= n't do <BR>> > it..nor will I knowingly undercut another te! chni= cians price to get the <BR>> > work. <BR>> > <BR>> > = Bring it on, <BR>> > <BR>> > -Phil Bondi(Fl) <BR>> > = <BR>> > _______________________________________________ <BR>> = > Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives= <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _____________________________= __________________ <BR>> Pianotech list info: http://www.ptg.org/mai= lman/listinfo/pianotech </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>