<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> <blockquote> <pre>Well, now we've got a skilled aural tuner who now uses a ETD and= his ear, i.e. he has experience both, and we have you who tune= by ear only. (I believe?) Don't you think you should be= investigating the potential of ETDs in improving you tuning? = Maybe you think it can't be improved? David Ilvedson </pre> </blockquote> David. If you believe I have no experience with ETD's then I have to ask how closely you've been reading this list and for how long.  I am on record as one of the most adamant supporters of ETD usage, and am responsible for <<discovering>> the P-12th tuning on Tunelab 97, which Bernhard claims to be the origional discoverer of in a far more theoretical treatise on the subject some 15 or so years back. I have Dr. Jim Colemans personal congratuations on the idea, publicized on this list. There are a hand full of folks around the globe who have persued the positive  useage of ETDs more then myself. That enthusiasm does not require of me however, to be blind to viable concerns that present themselves.  Cheers RicB <pre> </pre> </body> </html>