<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Renner blues do use Wurzen felt, according to Lloyd Meyer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Love</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=Erwinspiano@AOL.COM href="mailto:Erwinspiano@AOL.COM">Erwinspiano@AOL.COM</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: July 04, 2002 1:10 = PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: hammers</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>In a message dated = 7/4/2002 9:19:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <A href="mailto:antares@EURONET.NL">antares@EURONET.NL</A> writes: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">Subj:Re: hammers Date:7/4/2002 9:19:21 AM = Pacific Daylight Time From:<A = href="mailto:antares@EURONET.NL">antares@EURONET.NL</A> Reply-to:<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To:<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> Sent from the Internet Greetings Antares      very interesting = post!</BLOCKQUOTE>    Your post on this wonderful felt are = recieved with open ears. Sounds like a voicers dream. This hammer and felt must = be a different animal than what is in the American Renner blues for I have = not cared for that sound no matter how well voiced. Flame suit on and Just = My biased opinion.   I would love to have a resource address and = phone number for the hammers/ or the felt your referring to.   I've = heard rumors of this type felt before. The info sounds vaguely like the = Russians ate this rare variety of sheep story when they invaded and that's why = mysterious wunder  felt isn't available to us now.  I don't mean to be = cynical but really I've heard this story before and wondered about the truth = of it.   I do however think that this type of felt when it did or = does exist has been described to me as kashmir which I think would be = ideal. I'd like to order some and have it pressed up at Ronsen.   I would = find it refreshing if Yamaha and others really had such a felt and were able = to process it without making them too hard to needle. I appreciate this = post and any hard addresses or numbers would be appreciated by us = all.    Best   >>>> Dale = Erwin>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE"> Let me try to make clear one thing about the Renners = with Wurzen felt from Europe : It is possible to ask for a not so = hard hammer so that voicing them is a piece of cake. Allow me = furthermore explain about the Wurzen felt : This was the beautiful felt way = in the past, before Russia invaded the East of germany. You see, in the = East of germany there is this small place called Wurzen and that is where = they make this felt. The conditions for making felt have always = been superb there, amongst others because of the water, that's why all the great factories like Schiedmayer, Blüthner, Steinway Hamburg, Bechstein, Bösendorfer etc. used to buy this particular felt. = One can distinguish it by looking at the sides :if you move the hammer a = bit you can see the grain of the felt and it reminds me of very expensive = Kashmir shawls, and that is actually what we see : condensed Kashmir = wool. The wool fibers come from the best wool in the world and the makers of the felt have experience based on more than a century of felt making. I have voiced very many piano's. As a matter of fact, = it is my daily activity. It is the most difficult part of creating a = beautiful tone and that is why I have invested so much time in learning = this process. On the one hand I - every time again - fear the job = because it is always a crucial moment and I always hope that the hammers are = not too hard, on the other hand, because I am on edge I usually bring it = to a good end because I have the experience and after 5 minutes know = have aquainted myself with the new hammers and know my course. For = a voicing technician, the intoneur, it is crucial to not have too hard hammers, as it spoils the pleasure. For that reason I = have also invested very much time, energy and miles to find out where in = Europe I could find the nicest hammer felt. When I finally found it, it = gave me much pleasure and assurance that I was not the only one deciding = for this felt : as I have explained before, most Steinway, Bösendorfer, = Bechstein and Yamaha also chose for this felt at the same time and Yamaha = makes the CFIII-S hammers in such a way that it even takes time for the = hammers to find their balance and become tough and hard. The latest Yamaha = concert hammers are the easiest ones of them all because the (Wurzen) = felt is nice, soft and gentle. Nowadays even Samick (in Incheon) buys = Wurzen felt from Germany and they now make their hammers themselves in Korea. Steinway Hamburg chooses for a somewhat harder pressing = which gives the instruments a more brilliant tone from the beginning = but after a few Months of professional playing we start all over again, = which (at least here in Europe) is a normal process and pretty nice for my = bank account. With this story I DON'T mean to tell anybody that = this is THE ONLY felt in the world.......hey! on the contrary!.... I have = no knowledge of the American felt makers and have no opinion about = it either. friendly greetings from Antares, Amsterdam, = Holland "where music is, no harm can be" visit my website at :  http://www.concertpianoservice.nl/ </BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>=