<html> <body> Sorry. Thanks, Phil. I didn't think to look there. Oldszeimers strikes again! :-( Avery At 04:46 PM 4/9/05, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> They (the pictures)  are in the Guild Technical Study manual.   Phil Romano <dl> <dd>-----Original Message----- <dd>From: Avery Todd [<a href="mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com" eudora="autourl"> mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com</a>] <dd>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:33 PM <dd>To: Pianotech <dd>Subject: RE: Splicing Strings <dd>Well, Alan. Can you provide some pictures/instructions on the "vice grip" method? <dd>I just showed my "apprentice" the pictures/instructions that David sent and I'll <dd>have to say that that is the way I passed the technical exam. So I 'KNOW' it works. <dd>Avery <dd>At 01:23 PM 4/8/05, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> <dd>For everyone who struggles with this: Find someone who can show you how to use the 5" vice grip method (put the round nose pliers away). In 5 minutes, you'll be an expert. <dd>  <dd>Alan R. Barnard <dd>Salem, MO <dl> <dd>-----Original Message----- <dd>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [ <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Richard Gullion <dd>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:35 AM <dd>To: Pianotech <dd>Subject: RE: Splicing Strings <dd>I have yet to master the KNOT...and is probably the major stumbling block for me, in trying the technical exam for RPT. Any ideas ??<img src="cid:6.2.0.14.2.20050409172248.03680b80@pop-server.houston.rr.com.1" width=18 height=18 alt="[]"> <dd>jason kanter <jkanter@rollingball.com> wrote: <dl> <dd>Nice pix. One BIG warning: if the break is between agraffe and tuning pin, <dd>make sure you pass the string through the agraffe *before* forming the loop <dd>in that section of string! <dd>-----Original Message----- <dd>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [ <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org%5DOn" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On</a> <dd>Behalf Of David Vanderhoofven <dd>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:56 PM <dd>To: Pianotech <dd>Cc: Matthew Todd <dd>Subject: Re: Splicing Strings <dd>Hi Matthew, <dd>Here is one way to do a splice. I am sure there are at least 6 or 7 other <dd>methods that will work also! <dd>splice1.jpg <dd>Using round nose pliers, make a 270 degree bend in one wire. Then make <dd>another 270 degree bend in the wire you are using to make the splice with. <dd>splice2.jpg <dd>Connect the two pieces of wire as shown. <dd>splice3.jpg <dd>As you pull on the ends of the wires, the knot will begin to form. <dd>splice4.jpg <dd>Another view of the knot. <dd>splice5.jpg <dd>Cut the ends of the wires so they are not sticking out more than <dd>1/4". 1/8" is better! Just don't cut the ends so close that the knot <dd>could slip. <dd>Now that the knot is formed and pulling tight, you are ready to put the <dd>string in the piano. Attach the loop to the hitch pin, thread it through <dd>the bridge pins, up to the upper bridge pin (or agraffe), up to the tuning <dd>pin. Measure the length you need to make 3 turns around the tuning pin, <dd>and install the string. As you increase tension on the string, the knot <dd>will pull tighter and tighter. Voila! <dd>Hope this is helpful! <dd>David Vanderhoofven <dd>Joplin, MO <dd>At 11:20 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote: <dd>>Do any of you have pics of a splice step by step? <dd>>Thanks! <dd>>Matthew <dd>_______________________________________________ <dd>pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl"> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> </dl> <dd>Richard <dd>the "Piano Guy" <dd>-- <dd>No virus found in this incoming message. <dd>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. <dd>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 04/07/2005 </dl> <dd>-- <dd>No virus found in this outgoing message. <dd>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. <dd>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 04/07/2005</blockquote> </dl> </blockquote></body> </html>