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<DIV><SPAN class=413034618-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>As David requested, I did respond privately, but as I see this =
is
obviously of interest to several of you, here is my response from =
yesterday
evening. I have not yet heard back from David.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jason kanter
[mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November =
04, 2004
9:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> David Andersen<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: one rubber =
mute<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>Okay, here's one path thru the temperament, as I learned =
using a C
fork.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>From fork, tune C5, using <FONT color=#ff0000>Ab2</FONT> as =
reference
note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>From C5 tune C4, using <FONT color=#ff0000>Ab3</FONT> as =
reference
note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>From C4 tune F3, using <FONT color=#ff0000>Ab2</FONT> as =
reference
note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>From F3 tune F4, using <FONT color=#ff0000>C#3</FONT> as =
reference
note. Check C4F4 fourth, using <FONT color=#ff0000>Ab3</FONT> as =
reference
note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>Between F3 and F4 tune A3 and C#4, making 4:5 beat
ratios.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>From C#4 tune F#3, using A3 as reference =
note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>From F#3 tune Bb3. Check F3Bb3 fourth, using <FONT
color=#ff0000>C#3</FONT> as reference note. Check Bb3F4 fifth, also =
using
<FONT color=#ff0000>C#3</FONT> as ref note.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>From Bb3 tune D4. Check A3D4 fourth and F3D4 =
sixth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
color=#0000ff
size=2>and so on predictably, tuning the rest of the temperament in =
this
sequence: G3, B3, Eb4, Ab3, E4.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>. The red notes do not have to be "right" to function as =
reference
notes - they just need to be a single frequency that produces a usable =
beat.
If they are an open unison that is not perfectly in tune with itself, =
they do
not work as reference notes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>In practice, I mostly use Tunelab, so in practice I don't do =
as much
checking as I think I should, but I am trying to unravel this =
single-mute
thing and understand what it is that you actually do. So please show =
me your
bearing plan, with checks, and open my eyes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=537105204-05112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" =
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size=2>Jason</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>David
Andersen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:25 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: one rubber =
mute<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#008080><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">WHen I'm in the temperament section, I'm =
constantly using reference strings for checks -- testing fifths =
with the
major sixth below the lower note of the fifth, for example. How do =
you do
this efficiently using a single rubber
mute?<BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT =
color=#008080><SPAN
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face=Verdana><BR></FONT></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Verdana>Do you mean you use =
strings you
haven’t tuned yet as references? I don’t do that; I just tune as =
I go, using
the tests I’ve learned within the notes I’ve tuned. Email me =
privately,
Jason, and we’ll talk about this so you can get an idea of what =
I’m
doing....<BR><BR>David Andersen</FONT></SPAN>
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