<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=windows-1250"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>Since I'm the = one who launched this wild ride, I've followed the thread and wish to say these things:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>1. It's = interesting how my post, which was essentially a matter of the art of voicing (and how to = aquire that artistic discernment), skittered off into all kinds of related trails--technology, university tuning, and various other areas. Just = like a room full of techs at convention. Good for exercising the brain muscles.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=140242202-06032005></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>2. I'd like = to know what some of the great ears of music have had to say about this--people = who were performing, conducting, recording, or voicing</FONT> <FONT = face=Arial>from 1950, say, into the 90's. The biggest names, e.g. Horowitz, could, of = course, have their pianos voiced exactly to their preferences--especially since = many of their pianos travel with them, do they not? But what about a Bernstein? = A Van Cliburn (NOT performing, but listening and judging)? Geo. = Defebaugh--anyone have memory of his thoughts? Franz Mohr, Etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>3. Speaking of = Horowitz, anyone want to stick yer neck out and comment on his recordings?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT = face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>4. For those = with limited experience and little opportunitity to mentor with someone, terms like <EM>"large, dark, powerful, clear, and throaty, with roar and snap at = double or triple forte, but NEVER clangy or distorted"</EM> just leave one = guessing as to what they mean. I assume that "dark" means power in the lower partials = not overshadowed by the higher ones (?) but I'd be guessing about that "roar = and snap" thing. This isn't to criticize David's description, merely to = point out the difficulties and frustrations of communicating sensory perceptions = through verbage. I've watch Roger Jolly and Ari Issac do some voicing and = marveled at what they can do and how well they do it. But even trying, in = person, to demonstrate and teach voicing to a room full of people seems very challenging: <EM>"See, the sound is now a broad 'Ohhhhh' instead of an = "Ehhhhh and it sits higher against on the shelf."  (Made part of that = up .... sorry)</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><EM><FONT face=Arial></FONT></EM></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=140242202-06032005><FONT face=Arial>I think it's = like people describing wines without giving you a sip: <EM>Yes, and this vintage is = drier than a moselle, slightly nutty, with just a hint of the vine not = revealed in the bouqet unless consumed at midnight in a graveyard while holding a = dead cat.</EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial>Alan R. Barnard</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><SPAN = class=140242202-06032005>Always Studyin' but Not Always Gettin' It in </SPAN>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--<BR> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<BR> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: = 03/01/2005<BR> </FONT> </P>