<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Verdana" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Verdana color=#000000 size=3> <DIV> <DIV>Sarah,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fortunately, I had my cover on the handheld, so not a whole lot of wate= r was able to get into it.  I took the battery out, removed everything I could, and left it in the hot car while I tuned two pianos, and guess what?  By the last piano of the day, it was working again, everything reloaded via SD card (In less than a minute, I might add).  Just had to= reset the system clock, and I was ready to go!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I spilled some wine in a laptop once, too.  I got the same ad= vice you just gave.  It worked.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>CYA...Back it up!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  In a message dated 5/20/05 4:22:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sarah@graphic-fusion.com writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS I even resurrected a laptop computer t= hat had a glass of wine spilled into it (the computer I'm using now).  Howeve= r, if anything liquid gets into a hard drive (which fortunately it didn't), t= he hard drive would need to be replaced....  unless.....  to rescue= your data, at least...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(1) Put the hard drive into a container o= f distilled water.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(2) Slowly pull a partial vacuum on the h= ard drive to draw out the air inside, and sloooowly release the vacuum.  = (The water will flow into the hard drive through the filtered vent hole.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(3) Shake water around inside the hard drive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(4) Remove from the water and slooooowly = pull a vacuum again, which will cause the water to come back out.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(5) Repeat a few times </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(6) Vacuum out the water, and draw a hard= , prolonged vacuum to completely evacuate all remaining water.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(7) Pray to the computer gods.</FONT></DI= V> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(8) Reinstall and power up.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(9) Pull your data off of the hard drive = and load it onto a replacement.  Why?  The internal debris would have bee= n scattered from the filter, so the hard drive's life expectancy might not b= e so good.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(10) Send me an email to tell me if it worked.  :-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarah</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-L= EFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fr= om:</B> <A title=mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com href="mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com">Sarah Fox</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:pianotech@p= tg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 20, 2005 7:02 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: When your day goes i= n the toilet</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi James,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For your Nokia and anybody else's near-= flush experience, take heart that most electronic devices CAN be brought = back to life if you do it the right way:  (1) Remove batteries.  (2= ) Submerse in a container of distilled water.  (3) Open the case to expose the insides.  (4) Flush with a couple more fresh rinses= of distilled water.  (5) Blow out the excess water and let dry (*thoroughly*).  (6) Reassemble and power up.  (Why is distill= ed water different from tap water?  It doesn't have any salts in it an= d therefore doesn't conduct electricity.)  I had done this several ti= mes throughout the years and then ran into some guy who was an electronics technician for the Navy.  He had used the exact same method on= a daily basis (and with great success) on equipment that got dunked i= n seawater.  ;-)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarah</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER= -LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>= From:</B> <A title=mailto:pianoman@accessus.net href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">James Grebe</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:pianotech= @ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 20, 2005 7:34= AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: When your day goes= in the toilet</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Maybe your pocket PC came back, but c= ell phones do not after being dunked in the toilet.  I had that experience and when the battery gets wet if has a dye that shows it ha= s been wet on the battery and it is NOT covered under warranty and the c= ell phone was unfixable.  I had to go back to my old cell phone becau= se the new one, though only 1 month old it had to be replaced and they co= uld not fix it. I did not have replacement insurance.  I used to have= a Motorola pager and it went through the washing machine but after 1 day= of drying out it did come back.  Praise be to Motorola and not Nokia.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV> <DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Creator of Hand= some Hardwood Caster Cups, piano benches, writing instruments<BR>(314) 608-4137<BR><A title=http://www.jamesgrebe.com/ href="http://www.jamesgrebe.com/">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 Ras= pberry Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A title=mailto:pianoman@accessus.net href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORD= ER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><= B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:Piannaman@aol.com href="mailto:Piannaman@aol.com">Piannaman@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 19, 2005 = 11:32 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> When your day goes i= n the toilet</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=3> <DIV>From the files of "Embarassing but True."  If you can't la= ugh at yourself, who CAN you laugh at?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So I finish tuning this lady's piano, and the diuretic effects = of the morning's coffee kick in.  "M'am, may I use your facilities?"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Yes, no problem."  She shows me to the door.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm wearing my shop apron.  Don't know why, probably becau= se of the convenient pocket space it affords me to put things like my pocket PC in(foreshadowing here...)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Business done, apron back in place--without my IPAQ, which has fallen into the (fortunately freshly flushed) toilet.  Flushed = for most of the day were appointments, Tunelab, contacts, and map functions.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Things to be thankful for: </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My wonderful wife, who offered me personalized GPS service via = my cell phone from her job at the university.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I tune mostly by ear, anyway.  (4 of the five jobs consist= ed of lowering the pitch on new pianos, 2 by over 20 cents each).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Since my day was so busy, I'd made out all of today's invoices = in advance, so at least I had everyone's address handy.</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SD cards, which saved EVERYTHING today.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Water dries out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Computers can come back from a dunking. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It's been a long day.  Time for a glass o' vino.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave Stahl</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FON= T></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>