<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>That sounds like= an ingenious way to do one key, but unfortunately there are 88= which have the same problem...</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original message= ----------------------------------------><BR>From: Sarah Fox= <<A= href="mailto:sarah@gendernet.org">sarah@gendernet.org</A>><BR= >To: Pianotech <<A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Rec= eived: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:51:17 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: Pulley= Keys</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Hi Terry,= David,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There's an article about the= technique on the Onesti Piano web site:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><A= href="http://www.onestipiano.com/pages/journalarticle.html"><FON= T face=Arial= size=2>http://www.onestipiano.com/pages/journalarticle.html</FON= T></A></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This seems to be a relevant= section:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><<If there are keys with= massive damage so that a gauge pin will not center in the hole,= the key can be placed in the keyframe with neighbors to align= properly while sitting on a snug fitting paper punching of .015"= or greater glued onto the bottom of that key. This will provide= an adequate guide for the pin and cutter. Selecting the proper= drill bit for the size of the balance pins, insert it into the= plug cutter, centering properly.>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following technique might be= used to *establish* the correct alignment for the "snug fitting= paper punching":</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(1) Put a snugly fitting paper= punching over the balance rail pin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(2) Put a tiny dab of glue on the= punching.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(3) Carefully lower the key onto the= punching, making sure to position it correctly with respect to= its neighbors.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(4) Leave key until glue is= dry.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(5) Remove key and mark/measure the= position of the punching hole (perhaps by making a mark exactly= X-distance "aft" of the correct position).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(6) Cut the notch, glue in new= material, etc., etc. -- placing the balance rail pin hole at the= previously measured location.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or here's another= idea:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(1) Cut a notch in the key. = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(2) Cut an insert to go in the= notch, leaving just a tiny bit of room for= fore/aft "wiggle," and leaving just a tiny bit of excess= width (not so much as to touch neighboring key).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(3) Drill a balance rail pin hole in= the insert in the "best guess" location.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(4) Dry-assemble the insert and= notched key on the keyframe and check for alignment.  Needs= tweaking? Remove material from appropriate end of insert to= achieve correct alignment.  The point is that it should be= *possible* to align the keystick over the insert,= when sliding it around.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(5) Remove keystick.  Leave= insert on balance rail pin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(6) Put Titebond on both= surfaces.  Lower keystick onto insert.  Align= correctly with neighbors.  Let dry.  Perhaps epoxy= would be a better, albeit messier, glue for this step, since= clamping the joint (e.g. with weight) while maintaining= alignment might be problematic.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(7) Remove keystick/insert. = Shape the insert flush with the= key.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(8) Fill any fore/aft gaps with= epoxy (using tape on the sides to retain it).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would that work?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Peace,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sarah</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message -----= </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "David Love" <</FONT><A= href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Pianotech" <</FONT><A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 8:51= PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: Pulley= Keys</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT= face=Arial size=2>> I don't quite understand it either. = It seems that you must be paying for<BR>> the= information.  The tricky part, as I see it, is when there= is<BR>> substantial fore and aft play and the hole center= must be reestablished.  I<BR>> can't quite envision an= easy method to accomplish that.  <BR>> <BR>> David= Love<BR>> </FONT><A= href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT= face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> <BR>> > [Original= Message]<BR>> > From: Farrell <</FONT><A= href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>><BR>> > To: Pianotech <</FONT><A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>><BR>> > Date: 6/12/2004 4:09:23 PM<BR>> >= Subject: Re: Pulley Keys<BR>> ><BR>> > Looks= interesting, but looks more like $40 worth of tooling and I= guess<BR>> the<BR>> > promise of some information on= how to do it? Am I missing something? $550?<BR>> ><BR>>= > Terry Farrell<BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original= Message ----- <BR>> > From: "David Love" <</FONT><A= href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>><BR>> > To: "Pianotech" <</FONT><A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial= size=2>><BR>> > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 1:10= PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: Pulley Keys<BR>> ><BR>>= ><BR>> > > Check out the website<BR>> >= ><BR>> > > </FONT><A= href="http://www.onestipiano.com/pages/bhrs.html"><FONT= face=Arial= size=2>www.onestipiano.com/pages/bhrs.html</FONT></A><BR><FONT= face=Arial size=2>> > ><BR>> > > David= Love<BR>> > > </FONT><A= href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT= face=Arial size=2>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> >= > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > >= From:<BR>> > > To: </FONT><A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial= size=2>> > > Sent: 6/12/2004 9:23:17 AM<BR>> >= > Subject: Re: Pulley Keys<BR>> > ><BR>> >= ><BR>> > > In a message dated 6/12/2004 6:19:12 AM= Pacific Standard Time,<BR>> > > </FONT><A= href="mailto:A440WRMPiano@tm.net"><FONT face=Arial= size=2>A440WRMPiano@tm.net</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>= writes:<BR>> > > If you are serious about doing a= quality, long-term job on this, and<BR>> > > anticipate= doing more in the future, I would recommend the Onesti= Key<BR>> > > Balance Rail Hole repair system.  It= is top notch.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > William R.= Monroe<BR>> > > Madison, WI<BR>> > >= Assoc.<BR>> >= >          Hi= WIlliam<BR>> > >   I've heard of this. How= much time to repair a set of holes accurately?<BR>> >= >          = Dale<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >= _______________________________________________<BR>> >= > pianotech list info: </FONT><A= href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT= face=Arial= size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><= BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> > ><BR>> ><BR>>= ><BR>> >= _______________________________________________<BR>> >= pianotech list info: </FONT><A= href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT= face=Arial= size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><= BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>= _______________________________________________<BR>>= pianotech list info: </FONT><A= href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT= face=Arial= size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><= BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>> </FONT></BODY></HTML>