<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Richard B</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You said (inter alia): </FONT></DIV> <DIV>"fact that ETD's are hear to stay... and will continue to get = better and better until at some point ear tuning will just become downright superfluous."</DIV> <DIV>I beg to dis- and agree!!!</DIV> <DIV>Something I find, is that making continual observations of an ETD = while tuning is detrimental to the time spent in tuning. I frequently gaze = into space or even close my eyes in concentration but NOTHING will convince me = to use the ETD out of the bearings area (unless I am tuning a Harpsichord to = some off-beat historic temperament which is in-built in my ETD, but then = Harpsichords only take 20 minutes or so to tune - taking it easy)</DIV> <DIV>Tell you this much for free though (and that's saying something;-) = the ear will become as superfluous to tuning due to the ETD as legs to walking = due to the CAR.  ... Yes? da?</DIV> <DIV>Michael G (UK) fireworks still going off in the darkness of Sussex-by-the-Sea :-)</DIV></BODY></HTML>