<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I found this amusing, guess Don didn't take it that way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bgreig@nyc.rr.com href="mailto:bgreig@nyc.rr.com">bruce = greig</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=dmannino@kawaius.com href="mailto:dmannino@kawaius.com">Don Mannino</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:26 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Kawai KG2D #1582033</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>Thanks, Don, = you do realize what your're saying here..........</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003></SPAN><SPAN = class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>I have to = say, though, that this sounds like the piano only needs a thorough, back front and = balance bedding.  Rather than trying to do a quick re-adjustment, allot the = time to do the whole job and you will likely find that the problem will be = solved.  <EM>When we hear this kind of "It's always been this way" complaint, = this almost always means that <STRONG>no one has taken the time to properly bed it.</STRONG></EM></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><STRONG><EM><FONT color=#000080></FONT></EM></STRONG></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>don't you?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>Bruce</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>----- Original Message = -----</STRONG> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=dmannino@kawaius.com = href="mailto:dmannino@kawaius.com">Don Mannino</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=bgreig@nyc.rr.com href="mailto:bgreig@nyc.rr.com">'bruce greig'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 10, 2003 = 6:52 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Kawai KG2D = #1582033</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>Bruce,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>Kawai = keyframes should be bedded flat with no pressure on the keyframe guide pins.  = Generally if this is done during a dry time, the keyframe will stay knock-free = during humid weather, but extreme conditions can cause the keyframe to move one way = then the other with the seasons.  Adjusting the balance rail glides = will not stop front rail knocking (unless they have been grossly misadjusted), = and your message does not make it clear why you would adjust the glides to stop = knocking, then be concerned about pressure on the guide pins for the = front rail.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>Repeated = re-beddings can cause the front rail lip on the bottom to be worn away, so that = black keys will always knock on hard blows and it is difficult to re-bed = things.  In this case, you should glue a strip of hard wood veneer along the front = edge, about 1/4" wide or so.  This can be done only at the ends if = needed, or along the full length of the rail.  Use aliphatic resin glue, = then iron it down with a warm iron and wax paper.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>After the = rail lip has been rebuilt, a lot of sanding and re-bedding should be done.  = You say you are familiar with keyframe bedding procedures, so I don't need to = give you details for redoing the keyframe back, front and balance = rails.  The key dip should also be reset if the front rail is thickened.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>If the = location of this piano has extremes which require key block hold downs, you should = be able to use the RX style keyframe guide blocks.  This should not be = done until after the keyframe itself is well bedded, though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>In some = extreme cases the keyframes have needed kerfing and wedging, but this is pretty = rare.  If the front rail lip is still in good shape, and the keyframe ends = warp up 1/4 in the winter, then getting it kerfed flat will make it flat for you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080>I am in = Japan this week, but Nick Gravagne and Andrew Thomas are in the office if you = want to call and talk to one of them about this.  The number is (800) 421-2177.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080> <DIV align=left> <DIV align=left><SPAN class=093412215-08072002><FONT = color=#000080>Don Mannino RPT, Manager</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=093412215-08072002><FONT color=#000080>Kawai = Piano Technical Support, US and Canada</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=093412215-08072002><A href="mailto:dmannino@kawaius.com"><FONT color=#000080>dmannino@kawaius.com</FONT></A></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=093412215-08072002><A = href="http://www.kawaius.com/"><FONT = color=#000080>www.kawaius.com</FONT></A></SPAN></DIV></DIV></FONT></SPA= N></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=561223822-10062003><FONT color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = bruce greig [mailto:bgreig@nyc.rr.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 10, 2003 = 12:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> acoustic2@kawaius.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Kawai KG2D = #1582033<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV>I've been servicing the above piano for about two years.  According to the owner, it has always had a problem with keyframe = knocking and even after glide adjustments, the knocking always returns.  = I've also found this to be true.  On my last visit, repeated = attempts at glide adjustments including the ones reachable only from the = underside, were fruitless.  I also observed that the treble keyend block was = not even touching the keyframe guide pin.   Please note that I am = well experienced with keyframe levelling procedures.</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>My questions now are: should this piano have front rail = keyframe or keybed glides installed and can you provide those parts (ones = similar those on the underside of the center rail.) with directions for installation?  </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>and, what approach do you advise for = the ineffectual key end block situation? As a stopgap, I put a couple thumbtacks on = the underside of the front rail, which has stopped the = knocking. </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>I will be preparing this piano on Friday for performance = use and would appreciate any advice asap.</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000080></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you.</DIV> <DIV>Bruce Greig, PTG, = RPT</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>