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<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>I can tune a =
piano aurally
pretty well. Takes awhile, but I can do it. I made myself learn for four =
reasons:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>1. You gotta =
have the
basics to pass RPT, anyway</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>2. I have, on =
occasion,
found myself an hour from my ETD (oops).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>3. Aural =
checks, especially
across the break, allow for better-tweeked transisitions on some
pianos.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>4. It is really =
helpful,
even in a full-ETD mode, to know the science and the art of the process, =
even if
the computer is helping me hear and think. The piano is, after all, an =
aural
device.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>5. It's just a =
really cool
skill to possess.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>I still marvel =
at two
things: How incredibly accurate aural tuning can be and how quickly and
skillfully pure aural tuners can do their thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>On the other =
hand, the
machines do make life easier for pitch corrections, diagnosing strings =
and other
problems, noisy environments, late-in-the-day-my-ears-are-pooped =
tunings, and,
for newbies, a chance to make some money when one hasn't
had opportunity to tune a couple hundred pianos for free =
and/or attend
a tuning school and/or have a mentor to work =
with. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>Bottom line: I =
think the
machine tuner and the aural tuner can produce equally solid results. But =
the
machine person also needs a pretty good set of listening skills to =
go along
with his or her little helper.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>And THAT, dear =
friends, is
my 2 cents worth. May we never fuss or fume, belittle or
presume.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT face=Arial>Now, about you =
Neanderthals
still using a C fork ... (Just kidding, just =
kidding)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=500495819-26022005><FONT =
face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial>Alan R. Barnard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial>Salem, MO</FONT></DIV>
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align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On =
Behalf Of
</B>antares<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:25 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Aural tuning- 300 cents flat
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>On 26-feb-05, at 20:34, Fenton Murray =
wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><I><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>"And, if you tune
aurally with nothing but a 440 fork to relate
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Arial><?smaller>to,
what do you do when you find yourself way below 440 and the pitch =
=<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I><BR><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>is
shiftng as you =
tune?"<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I><BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>I
take this question as rhetorical, but, with all due respect I =
believe it
shows a lack of understanding of the skills of one who has tuned =
aurally for
30 years. To accomplish a pitch raise aurally there are perhaps =
100's of
split second decisions made on the fly, sort of like a computer, =
only in
that most incredible computer of all, the
=
mind.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR> <BR><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>"Hop
aboard year 2005 and get yourself a Cybertuner with the =
=<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I><BR><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>great
pitch raise =
feature.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I><BR><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>Counting
beats with a piano like this... is "Neanderthal tuning =
=<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I><BR><BR><I><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>in
the extreme".<?/smaller><?/fontfamily></I> =
<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Hmm, I wish I wouldn't see =
this
kind of talk on here. There is more than one way to achieve your =
goal, we
need to respect them all, I certainly respect what you're doing and
appreciate the opportunity for dialog.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> =
<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?smaller>Respectfully,<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>
<BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Fenton Murray, =
RPT<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <BR><BR><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?color><?param =
0000,0000,EEEE><?smaller>www.MurraysPianoTuning.com<?/smaller><?/color><?=
smaller>
<?/smaller><?/fontfamily><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>On the other =
hand,
what are we actually taking about?<BR>We are talking about a pitch =
raise on an
older instrument.<BR>If you do a pitch raise on an older instrument =
with new
strings, you can accomplish this in maybe 15 minutes.<BR>If it is an =
older
instrument, you have to be very careful and make da choice to what =
pitch you
dare to tune the piano.<BR>The speed of the pitch raise remains the =
same, the
final pitch may be different.<BR>Pitch raise is pitch raise, and any
professional should be able to do this certainly within 30 =
minutes.<BR>The
second tuning may take another 30 minutes, and the final tuning may =
take you
45 minutes.<BR>So all in all, every professional tuner should be able =
to do a
giant pitch raise within 2 hours, and with a convincing =
result.<BR><BR>And I
mean just aurally, ok?<BR><BR><BR>friendly =
greetings<BR>from<BR>André
Oorebeek<BR><BR>www.concertpianoservice.nl<BR><BR>"Where music is no =
harm can
be"<BR><BR><BR><BR>
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