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TYPE="CITE"><FONT face=Arial>I very much like the Young myself. =
<BR>I
usually end up playing in the Db key <BR>and the velttemperert =
klavier
...woow. <BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV></FONT><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 size=3 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><FONT
face=Arial>This is in itself a very interesting comment. The =
sounds
which are titillating to *you* go unnoticed by many (at least =
consciously) and
are what incite small but very angry and vocal mobs to near violence =
at PTG
seminars and conventions. <BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=0 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT color=#0000ff =
face=Arial size=2>A
tuner tunes chromatic 5ths and thirds but a musician never plays that
way</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT =
face=Arial><BR>Owen
Jorgensen had me tune the Young and 1/4 Comma Meantone for him at the
Convention in Dearborn. I usually would not have done either =
one.
To me, the Meantone was so extreme that it causes the piano to =
lose
virtually all of the *resonance* it has become known for. The =
Young was
just too bland and uninteresting. I never tune it because to me, =
there
are so many more ideas which do make the modern piano more tonal and =
give
music a very desirable *texture* which is not found with ET.
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
face=Arial></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
color=#0000ff>I understand what you mean. Both Young and 1/4MT are =
extreme but
I like Youngs pure 5ths that kills/soften the bad thirds. I also =
like
EBVT But this are the tunings I tuned until know except for ETso I =
don't know
anything else. I guess I can agree with you.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">...</FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I believe that
with understanding and practice that these tunings can be accomplished =
aurally, with the SAT (any model) and probably with the other ETD's =
available.
The ETD simply needs to be able to produce intervals of =
specified sizes
and compare 2 intervals and reach an equal compromise. <BR><BR>*Modern =
Piano
Temperaments* <BR><BR>Marpurg-...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">1/8 Comma
Meantone ...<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 =
lang=0 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">1/7 Comma Meantone ...<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT =
color=#0000ff
size=2>I don't have an ETD so I tune by ear. If there is no aural =
tradition to
tune ta temprement how can it be a "Historical temprement" :-) =
Better to
call them Modern piano temprements. Haven't heard a 1/7 or a 1/8 comma =
MT but
I guess it's sounds OK. By the way did Aaron really tune what we call =
a MT
temprement. I think he describes something between WT and
MT.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>I
would also use the Vallotti Temperament (not Vallotti-Young) before I =
would
choose the Young #1. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
color=#0000ff>Young works OK with violins and guitar (I'm a string =
player).
Also it seems to be close to Barnes. But it's the same temprement to
me.</FONT><BR><BR>*********************** <BR><BR>By the way, Ola, =
your
description of how you use test blows to settle a string tells me that =
you are
doing very high level work. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
color=#0000ff>Thanks, very happy to hear. Hope I can live up to it. =
I been
having good teachers! Thanks </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
color=#0000ff>I guess I'm the right track then. I just keep
on.</FONT><BR><BR>Perhaps a great tuning challenge can be done in your =
country. I would present my EBVT with Tempered Octaves against =
the very
best concert quality ET tuning that northern Europe has to offer. =
<FONT
color=#0000ff size=1>Thats not me </FONT>Let the best =
musicians available
and the audience decide which piano expresses music best. =
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
color=#0000ff>Richard what do you say? I think I have to make more =
Wine. Bill
bring your Harmonium.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 lang=0 size=2 =
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><FONT
face=Arial>Bill Bremmer RPT <BR>Madison, =
Wisconsin</FONT></FONT><FONT
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