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David</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> I don't think the =
idea of plate
bushings is flawed but only that when it is used as an excuse to short =
cut a
nice tight fitting block to the flange which is what I've come to =
assume
after observing the lack of fit on the Yam./and other oriental types =
with plate
bushing. </FONT></DIV>
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Has no one
else observed this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:skolnik@attglobal.net" =
title=skolnik@attglobal.net>David
Skolnik</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"
title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 12, 2001 7:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: Ditch the tuning pin =
bushings/revisited</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dale<BR><BR>I agree with you about the feel of a well =
executed
Steinway style configuration, however, from your earlier post, in which =
you
described converting a Yamaha to a Steinway style, I'm not clear =
whether
you are explicitly stating that you feel the bushing system to be =
inherently
flawed. Can you clarify?<BR><BR><BR>At 12:30 PM 05/12/2001 -0700, you =
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite"><FONT face=arial =
size=2>
David and list</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial
size=2> all your questions are good =
ones and
since I started the ditch the bushings campaign allow me to interject =
one
potent argument and or bias.</FONT><BR><FONT face=arial =
size=2>
Any tuner that has ever tuned a good original 20's stwy or other well =
fit
piano has found that they tune remarkably well and =
flaggpoling is
essentially a none issue. The pins render as better or at least =
as
easily as any bushing fit block and the pins are not leaning against =
the
plate(even after all these years) because of a good tight plate
flange/block fit and this is a piano system that has endured for how =
many
years?</FONT><BR><FONT face=arial size=2> It seems to me =
that any piano
that has a a good block to plate flange fit ( and 40 screws)should be =
able to
duplicate the stable and tunable Steinway style system. =
</FONT><BR><FONT
face=arial size=2> As others have said one of =
the advantages
to bushing is a dust/liquid barrier. I like Willis Snyder's idea of =
some form
of wood colored plastic insert for those of us who might need that for =
school
church or bar applications.</FONT><BR><FONT face=arial =
size=2> I
addressed the issue of directional force in my first post on the
subject.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial
size=2> Dale Erwin</FONT><FONT
face=arial></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite"> Hi Dave (David
Love)<BR><BR> Right you are ,it is highly beneficial for the =
tuning pin
hole to lineup<BR>with the bushing but also that the bushing be under =
some
kind of compression<BR>as is the tuning pin in the block. Why? =
glad you
all asked, because the<BR>major amount of force caused by the string =
tension
is translated from the<BR>pin thru bushing and bears against the =
flange
thereby negating the need for<BR>much if any true pinblock to plate =
flange
contact. Just restring any<BR>oriental piano. I got my first lesson on =
this
replacing strings and pinblock<BR>on a few 1970's Yamahas. Maybe =
there
were two places that touched the<BR>flange on the whole
block.<BR> My solution was to fully fit the block =
with a
good plate fange contact<BR>and eliminate the bushing. The piano =
tunes
like a dream(Bolduc block)yeah<BR>baby. Enough
said?<BR><BR> Dale
Erwin</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR></BODY></HTML>