<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Micahel, others,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>The "pry tools are available at Jahnn, the best version , with a handle = allow you to make the lever on another tuning pin (round space for that in the tool) = . The other one have a spacer at one end, I guess it is not really a "pry bar, = but some kind of hook that go around the tuning pin, I am sure you know that = one (but it looks like a German tool to me).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>The coil lifter is a must you can work from above, or from under, ther is a = mobile mass that does the job (assuming the strings are not really too tight on = the pin, for the APSCO version of the tool I have)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>BTW Terry, do you have more than one tip on this tool (for smaller or = thicker tuning pins) ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Best regards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Isaac OLEG</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=689100801-05112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <STYLE>  </STYLE> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=320 border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD> <TABLE height=80 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=320 = align=right border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD class=tiny> <TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; 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MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la = part de</B> Michael Gamble<BR><B>Envoy� :</B> mercredi 5 novembre = 2003 01:08<BR><B>� :</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Objet :</B> = Fw: Leveling Coils & Pinching Becket<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:21 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Leveling Coils & Pinching = Becket</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hello Gordon. Just a couple weeks ago I = leveled coils on a piano the was likely restrung a good 50 years ago - an 1880s Knabe = square grand. First of all, the Mother of All Coil Lifter from Joe Goss - = picture below. I guess I should have put something next to it for scale, but = it is twice the size of the junkers from Schaff and it has a hardened tip. = No coil will be unlevel as long as I have this tool!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:689100801@05112003-327f" align=baseline = border=0></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please tell me how this tool works? = You cinch the coils up from underneath, so I can't guess at the action required.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Below is a picture of the horrible coils I was = facing. I was afraid to even try and tune it because so many of the strings were = already getting mashed down into the plate. The root of the problem on this = piano was that the holes for the tuning pins were drill about 20 degrees off of = vertical - the coils will naturally go down unless someone is determined to = force them up - at least temporarily.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0 src="cid:689100801@05112003-3286" = align=baseline border=0></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How many of you noticed that the = coils are the wrong way round? I once came across a piano where a cowboy had = replaced a couple of strings this way. I didn't notice it until the pitch went = down instead of up...! Then I had to re string the affected = parts.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Actually, I did not use Joe's tool on this = piano - I use his too for perfecting the coils. On this horror project I used the = little pry-bar type coil lifter available from the supply houses. I just = let tension down on the strings enough so that the coil would lift via the = pry tool.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can't get this "prytool" in = UK</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Regarding the becket - just take a pair of = pliers when you let the tension down and squeeze them puppies. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use a pair of long duck-billed - it = "gets in there!" </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Gordon Holley" <</FONT><A href="mailto:gholley@hi-techhousing.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>gholley@hi-techhousing.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 = 11:05 AM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Leveling Coils & = Pinching Becket</FONT></DIV></DIV><FONT face=Arial> <DIV><BR><FONT size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Michael G = (UK)</FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>