<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4A257.02778BE0" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: = "Times New Roman"; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; = mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; = mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } SPAN.SpellE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-spl-e: yes } SPAN.GramE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-gram-e: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=blue link=blue = bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I disagree. BS in not = pure.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Carl Meyer Ptg assoc Santa Clara, Ca.</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From: <A title=davidlovepianos@comcast.net href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">David Love</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Friday, September 24, = 2004 4:53 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Practicing on a not so = good piano: was RE: tax deductions?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> I would say = that the idea that practicing on a not so great piano makes you a better = pianist is at least counterintuitive, at most, pure BS.  Much of learning and refining = piano skills has to do with developing your sense = of hearing and connecting what your hands do to what your ears hear.  It is not, afterall, the same as learning to type.  The poorer the piano, the = more you learn to not listen, to ignore what you hear and therefore surrender = control over what you are trying to accomplish musically.  Wondering whether the = mechanical problems you are encountering in executing a difficult passage belong = to your fingers or the action can only serve to confuse the issue more and = force you into some bad habits with respect to relaxation that will not serve = your technique or tone production at all.   And as far as = advocating poorer pianos for our adult piano students to improve their = technique…well that would be counterproductive.  Remember, critical thinking is a privilege, not a right.  You have to earn it.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <DIV> David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net = <o:p></o:p></DIV> -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Avery = Todd Sent: Friday, September 24, = 2004 2:51 PM To: = Pianotech Subject: Re: tax deductions? <o:p> </o:p> Bull hockey! Avery = At 09:23 PM 9/23/04, you wrote: <![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> Richard said:   "I = tell them that children and or adults will practice more and can get much more = from the practice with a good piano."   That is only good to a = certain extent.  After the kid, or adult progresses to a certain level, = it will be more beneficial to practice on a not so great piano.  It can = do many great wonders to piano technique. Matthew Richard Oliver Snelson = <rsnelson0984@mchsi.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p> That's not what Ryan said, = Mr. Hechler. Too bad about your nerve, must be <o:p></o:p> the same one you often hit = when your past rants about M.S.<o:p></o:p> I will do exactly what Ryan = said also. Finding a junk spinet or console in <o:p></o:p> a nice home with an older = child or younger taking serious lessons on it will = <o:p></o:p> bring on a discussion with = the mother or father. I don't care if they ever <o:p></o:p> call me back to tune for = them. I tell them that children and or adults will <o:p></o:p> practice more and can get = much more from the practice with a good piano. I <o:p></o:p> have never had anyone get mad = at me, they say wow! No one has had the nerve <o:p></o:p> to be honest with us about = the piano. After all someone gave it too us and <o:p></o:p> we really thought it would be = nice to have a better piano for our <o:p></o:p> son/daughter to play. Note I = didn't say "Grand." And I never follow the <o:p></o:p> above discussion with the fact that I might h! ave used pianos for sale.<o:p></o:p> Play your antique piano all = you want Mr. Hechler I'll keep on enjoying my <o:p></o:p> grand piano and having the = pleasure of going back to my customers house when <o:p></o:p> they = call to say they purchased a better piano.<o:p></o:p> Why should Ryan keep his = statement to himself? You never follow that advice. <o:p></o:p> Now do = you?<o:p></o:p> Richard Oliver Snelson<o:p></o:p> ----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p> From: "Hechler Family" <o:p></o:p> To: "Pianotech" <o:p></o:p> Sent: Thursday, September 23, = 2004 3:12 PM<o:p></o:p> Subject: Re: tax deductions? <![if = !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> > = Ryan,<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Boy have you hit a major = nerve with me.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Based on your comment, = everyone should upgrade to a grand. Nearly 99 <o:p></o:p> > percent of my business = is the pianos you mentioned below. If which 99 <o:p></o:p> > percent have no space = for a grand or don't want a grand. And to top things <o:p></o:p> > off, I own an antique = player piano which is a Story & Clark which I feel = <o:p></o:p> > is a g! ood quality = instrument. Finally, I also rebuild antique pump organs = <o:p></o:p> > which are not upgradeable.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > So please keep your = blanket statements to yourself.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > P.S. I recently acquired = a player piano rebuilt job for a Gulbransen <o:p></o:p> > = piano.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > Ryan Sowers wrote:<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = <o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> >> Very frequently I am = encouraging people to upgrade their spinet, <o:p></o:p> >> consoles, and = worn-out uprights. How could I do this in good faith if I <o:p></o:p> >> don't personally = value the instrument enough to warrant owning a good = <o:p></o:p> >> quality one.<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > -- = <o:p></o:p> > Duaine Hechler<o:p></o:p> > Piano, Player Piano, = Organ, Pump Organ<o:p></o:p> > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding<o:p></o:p> > Associate Member of the = Piano Technicians Guild<o:p></o:p> > Reed Organ Society Member<o:p></o:p> > St. Louis, MO 63034<o:p></o:p> > (314) 838-5587<o:p></o:p> > dahechler@charter.net<o:p></o:p> ><o:p></o:p> > = _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p><= /P> > pianot! ech list info: = <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><o:p>= </o:p> > = <![if = !supportLineBreakNewLine]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></= FONT> pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><o:p>= </o:p> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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