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<DIV>Alan:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This is not easy. It's your church, you are the player. If
you're willing to take this on as a freebie, just make that offer as a way to
save the church some money. Of course if you're not willing to do this
free in perpetuity, then........ don't.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Plan B: Is there another tuner in the area that you could get to
verify the work the non-guild tuner is doing? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This is a tough situation, but just remember that no matter which way this
goes, no one will remember in 6 months. (Well, the current tuner might
but......)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>dave<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR
***********<BR><BR>On 7/13/2003 at 1:14 PM Alan wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
LIST:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I could really use some advice on
this one! Also, any technical opinions from not ETD users would
help.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THE PIANO: Kawai UTC-7 studio in
like-new condition. This piano has a remarkable scale design: I measured
inharmonicity at C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, and C6; used TuneLab to calculate a curve
based on 6:3 bass and 4:1 treble. Came out right on, very “flat” variances at
the extremes, i.e., no observable deviation from the optimal curve. Switched
the display to 4:2 and the bass and treble deviation curves absolutely
disappeared in the middle of the piano. And I mean exactly flat, every note on
the curve at 4:2. Wow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THE SITUATION: Our church piano
has been tuned for many years by a tuner who stays in a motel and tunes in
this area every six months. He is not a Guild tuner so he will not see this. I
was once called to meet him at the church and let him in. I stayed to chat
while he tuned, nice guy. He uses Braid-White, C fork, 4ths and 5ths, strictly
aural. No problem. In fact, this piano ought to be an aural tuning dream! He
does no strip muting and tunes with just one split mute, i.e., left string,
center string, then right string. So he tunes his C4 and the C4 unison, then
off he goes on his temperament, tuning the unisons as he goes. He never
visited the same string twice for any reason and did the whole piano in about
40 minutes. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The piano sounded pretty good when
he left, though I didn’t measure it or really test it in any way. I was, at
the time, the church pianist and noticed no problems except that his tunings
didn’t seem to “hold” very well or very long. On the other hand, we all know
what the dramatic climate swings in churches do to pianos so I wasn’t about to
blame the tuner.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MY ACTIONS: Lately, it had gotten
so sour that no one could stand it. So, with permission, I tuned it as a
donation of service, and happy to do so. Friday, I used calculated overpulls
to pitch-correct it because A4 was about 6 cents flat, as was, roughly, the
whole center of the piano. The bass was flat of my calculated curve by 10-12
cents and more. A1 was over 50 cents flat of the curve which already had an
offset of about 17 cents. The high treble tended flat and the last few notes
were very off, A7 to C8 was sharp a bunch. Saturday, I returned and fine-tuned
the piano. It is dead-on pitch and sounds great, very sweet. (I’m bragging on
the piano, not on me.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">YIKES: Today at church the
custodian told me that she let the tuner in on Thursday <B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic; mso-bidi-font-weight: normal; mso-bidi-font-style: normal">(the
day before I worked on the piano)</SPAN></I></B> and he was here “30 or 40
minutes banging away on the piano.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">MY THEORY: I think this fellow can
take a nearly-in-tune piano and make it sound “okay” to most people in less
than an hour. I suspect that he isn’t setting the pins terribly well, nor
really settling the string, either. And, in this case, it is clear that the
piano was too far off for a one-pass tuning in the first place. Also, I think
he is sloppy in tuning the lower bass—the only check I saw him using was
listening to the double octave—and I think he is just guessing at the high
treble (maybe losing some hearing?). He is so “confident” in his work that he
really doesn’t do checks at all: When I watched him, he finished at C8,
diddled out a few little tune phrases on the piano (about 20 seconds worth),
packed up, and left. No checks of
3<SUP>rd</SUP>-10<SUP>th</SUP>-17<SUP>th</SUP>, no running 3rds, 5ths, 10ths,
or 17ths, no Maj 6<SUP>th</SUP>-Min 3<SUP>rd</SUP>, nothing. Just his 4ths and
5ths for the temperament, then single octaves up and down with a couple of
double octaves in the bass.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">THE DILEMMA: If I knew what I know
and were a plumber or an accountant, I would sure speak up. But as a tuner,
SHOULD I speak up? How on earth can I do it without sounding like a
self-serving idiot carping about a competitor?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Alan R.
Barnard</SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place><st1:City><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Salem</SPAN></FONT></st1:City><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">,
</SPAN></FONT><st1:State><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">MO</SPAN></FONT></st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><FONT size=2
Arial></BLOCKQUOTE>**************** END MESSAGE FROM Alan
*********************</FONT> <BR>
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David M. Porritt
dporritt@mail.smu.edu
Meadows School of the Arts
Southern Methodist University
Dallas, TX 75275
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