<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"I used Franklin cold hide = glue."</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cold hide glue has its place. When you = need a long open time, you want a reversible glue joint, and you are not worried = about the glue penetrating the material, cold hide glue can be a great adhesive. = Hot hide glue, of course, also is wonderful in many = applications.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=avery@ev1.net href="mailto:avery@ev1.net">Avery Todd</A> = </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 08, 2004 = 12:01 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cold hide glue = shelf life</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Terry, <BR><BR>Just curious. Are you talking about the = hide glue in the bottle or the <BR>hide glue in a glue pot? The former I'd = never use. The other I use<BR>all the time! :-) <BR><BR>Avery <BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial = size=2>So from this one experience I observed that old hide glue that is clear may = still be good, while cloudy hide glue may not yield a good bond. I don't know = if that is a definitive relationship, but I do know that if I ever see = cloudy hide glue, I won't use it.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial = size=2>From the TiteBond web site for cold hide glue: Storage life <IMG = alt=1af0e5.gif src="cid:002101c464dd$a09d4d30$b9b52341@youro0kwkw9jwc">12 months = in tightly closed containers at 75°F.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial = size=2>Terry Farrell<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>----- = Original Message ----- </FONT><BR><FONT face=arial size=2>From: "Dave Nereson" = <<A href="mailto:davner@kaosol.net">davner@kaosol.net</A>><BR>To: = <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: = Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:15 AM<BR>Subject: cold hide glue shelf = life<BR></FONT><FONT face=arial><BR></FONT><FONT face=arial = size=2>>     Tried to glue hammer shanks with cold hide glue (Franklin) last night<BR>> and the stuff just would not set up.  Three hours = later and I could still<BR>> pull the shank out of the butt as tho' it = had no glue at all!  It's a bottle<BR>> I've had for a while, but = probably not more than a year or so.  Worked fine<BR>> a couple weeks = ago.  It gets warm and cool in the shop, but not really = hot<BR>> or cold.  Does the stuff have a short shelf life?  The cap's = been on the<BR>> whole time.  Other bottles I've had never did = this.  -- David Nereson, RPT<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> pianotech = list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></FONT><BR><FONT face=arial size=2>> = </FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>