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<DIV>In a message dated 10/4/2004 7:27:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
A440A@aol.com writes:</DIV>
<DIV> Ed </DIV>
<DIV> For me It's the flagpoling that is at issue. Yes They=
turn like a dream.</DIV>
<DIV> Another factor is how thick is the plate flange & the
unsupported part of the pin above the block. If the plates thin not as much
flagpoling. I have recently this year been capping my stwy/Bolduc block=
with a thin cap of delignit 5/16ths inch & this does help the flagpoling=
& the tendency for the top of the pin hole to get hogged out. The delign=
it
is denser & handles more abuse from tuning pin bend ing & turning. I=
t's
originally a Yamaha technique.</DIV>
<DIV> I know drilling speeds have much to do with ultimate pin fit but =
even
using consistent feed rates,air & the same size bits, I can still =
get
some discrepencies in torque. ie. I usually use .257 for no 2s but I ended u=
p
reaming the last Bolduc block with a no.261 to get a more tuner friendl=
y
fit. I hate tight pins. A piano with tight pins will spend more of it's life=
time being out of tune than one that isn't as snug for a lot of reasons.</DI=
V>
<DIV> Yes Ed <STRONG>too </STRONG>many variables</DIV>
<DIV> Dale</DIV>
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=2>Dale
writes: <BR> I would not recommend no. ones in Ds or other hea=
vy
tension scales unless <BR>they have plate bushing. I find the D I di=
d
with ones has more pin flex than <BR>desired & the tuning is a b=
it
more squirrly than before it was restrung. <BR><BR>Hmmm, this =
is
interesting! <BR> Four years ago, I restrung the D at Vanderbi=
lt
with #1 pins in a new <BR>Steinway block. The torque tapers from aro=
und
125 in/lbs in the bass to 100 in the <BR>treble, (I used the two sizes of
drill bits and also increased the feed speed <BR>at the top end to give a
little looser hole). <BR> The piano tunes like a
dream. I wish all the D's I tune, (six of them <BR>last week!) were =
this
easy to place the pins. Soooo.... I dunno. There are a <BR>lot of
variables in something this subjective. <BR>Regards,
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