<HTML> In a message dated 10/24/03 11:38:35 AM, Erwinspiano@aol.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE="CITE"> I also measure the distance from the no. 88 bridge pin hole to= the side of the case & stretcher. This eliminates the possibility of ge= tting pattern located wrong. There are other ways. Rebuilders please chim= e in. Drill out dowels remove treble cap screws. Now the fun pa= rt. It's time to knock the board out Any body tired yet? More later. going to work<= FONT COLOR="#000000" FACE="Geneva" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" SIZE="2"> Later--Dale </BLOCKQUOTE> This is good info to me, in the spirit of the list I will reciprocate on kno= cking out a board. I recently used a set of three firestone brand air spring= s (really just lengths  of highly reinforced hose,, NOT fire hose) lin= ked in series with a sensitive pressure regulator, all this strategically pl= aced under a six grand board at belly rail, straight side and back curve, an= d I was able to lift the whole board out in about five minutes with no damag= e. quite nice. The Automotive plants call these things linear actuators and = use them in lieu of low power presses. A substitute would be possible I thin= k, but not fire hose. I am told it is too dangerous to use at these pressure= s, or mabye just because it comes to us used already. This is one of my dumb= ideas that actually worked out. regards Glenn C.</HTML>