<HTML> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subject: Re: removing a plate by myself Wow, that was quite a story. Scary, but I'll be it was exciting, too. I was always curious: Can you use one of those devices that lifts engines out of cars? I think it's called a cherry picker. I know someone that rented one to pull his engine. It rides on wheels, and you can roll the wheels under the car to position the chain hoist right above the engine. I would think it's about the right height for a piano plate. And if you can rent them for a one-time use, then that would be appropriate for removing a plate when you're not in your shop. Or if you're working out of half a single-car garage and don't want a permanent installation in your shop. Anybody tried this? Charles Neuman </BLOCKQUOTE> Charles, and Wim, Using an engine hoist was suggested back a while ago, but was probably not followed through at that time........if there is no reasonable attachment point for a real hoist, this would seem a logical alternative, and while they can be rented, as Charles points out, they also can be purchased easily enough and are not all THAT expensive.  Check out this website: www.jcwhitney.com Stan Ryberg Barrington IL mailto:jstan40@aol.com</HTML>