<DIV><BR>Joe stated that: <BR>> > Inharmonicity works in relation to tension. If the <BR>> > tension goes up, so does Inharmonicity <BR><BR>I was simply stating that increasing tension on a wire actually lowers its inharmonicity. Of course, if you raise the tension of a particular note by increasing the wire size you will get a net gain of inharmonicity, but this is due to the greater stiffness of the thicker wire, <U>not</U> the greater tension. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "ryan sowers" <pianorye@yahoo.com> <BR>> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 4:30 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: Rescaling questions <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Inharmonicity goes down with increased tension, <BR>> all <BR>> > other things being equal. <BR>> > <BR>> > --- Joe Garrett <joegarrett@earthlink.net> wrote: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Squuuuuuzzzzzz me!!!!! How do you
get increased <BR>> tension with other things <BR>> being equal? Speaking length for instance? <BR>> <BR>> If you have a note with a particular size wire, <BR>> increasing the wire size <BR>> will increase the tension and the inharmonicity <BR>> assuming a plain wire. That <BR>> is if you are tuning to the same frequency. What <BR>> kind of games are you <BR>> playing? <BR>> <BR>> Carl Meyer Ptg assoc <BR>> Santa Clara, Ca. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > > David Renaud said: "to calculate rescaling. <BR>> > > Never done this before. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > What is prefered range of tension and % of <BR>> breaking <BR>> > > point at various points along the scale? <BR>> > > .....this is not for the bass strings. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Old grand or upright piano(both) <BR>> > > 160lbs average?? <BR>> > > If Inhar. goes up by increasing tension with <BR>> larger
<BR>> > > wire is this bad.....or is inhar good at some <BR>> point? <BR>> > > How much inhar. is too much?" <BR>> > > <BR>> > > David, <BR>> > > Inharmonicity works in relation to tension. If <BR>> the <BR>> > > tension goes up, so does Inharmonicity. I was <BR>> told, <BR>> > > by my mentor, "do not exceed 60% of the breaking <BR>> > > strength." Many times this is not possible to <BR>> > > follow, but it's a good rule of thumb. I would <BR>> > > suggest you consider using a <BR>> "loudness/impedance" <BR>> > > formula, as well. The combination of all, in, <BR>> > > hopefully, linear graphs, will give you what you <BR>> > > desire. When running a scale, I try to percieve <BR>> what <BR>> > > the intent of the piano designer/manufacturer <BR>> was. <BR>> > > Most of the time this is apparent, but many <BR>> pianos <BR>> >
> were "copy-cat" types and the "copy" got lost in <BR>> the <BR>> > > translation! Doing lots of scales & putting them <BR>> > > into practice, (ie rebuilds on your stuff<G>), <BR>> is a <BR>> > > big help in coming to the conclusions that will <BR>> work <BR>> > > for you and the pianos you are re-whatevering. <BR>> > > Or.....you can send the scale to someone like me <BR>> or <BR>> > > Del or Ron or...????? and let them figure it <BR>> out.<G> <BR>> > > Best Regards, <BR>> > > Joe Garrett, R.P.T. <BR>> > > Captain, Tool Police <BR>> > > Squares R I <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ===== <BR>> > Ryan Sowers, RPT Puget Sound Chapter <BR>> > Pianova Piano Service <BR>> > Olympia, WA <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > __________________________________ <BR>> > Do you Yahoo!? <BR>> > Yahoo! Mail is new
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