<HTML>In a message dated 12/13/2002 12:55:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, hufford1@airmail.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj: Re: Off list: Re: S&S D Duplex Date: 12/13/2002 12:55:37 AM Pacific Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:hufford1@airmail.net">hufford1@airmail.net</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>.obin >></BLOCKQUOTE>                    Hi Sarah                     I was just catching up on some old mail and found this. As to your question as to wether the Wissner is a direct Stwy clone of 1933 vintage I wanted to point out 1933 vintage Stwy D's had uneven speaking lengths in the first capo section and , yes uneven duplex speaking lengths as well. Baldwin also did this at the same time in history but both derivations were obviously dicontinued for some reason.           From conversations with others the idea was to create a different tone color but itconsequently sacrificed power. On the S&S D I'm currently installing a new belly system and decided to change it back to even lengths as most Ds end up in large venues that require power. I was curious since Wissners are varitible clones if yours had this feature? Also ,not having had the pleasure of seeing any of these pianos here on the west coast , does it really sound like a S&S D or close? I wonder if Wissner was sued or bought out. Steinerts are a fairly close clone as well ,both physically and tonally although not the same wire scaling or action design as they had Wessel ,Nickel and Gross actions.    Peace to you as well       Dale Erwin <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>>Sarah Fox wrote: >> >>>Hi Robin, >>> >>>I don't think we disagree.  <smile> >>> >>>So you've rebuilt two Wissners?!  How similar to mine?  Were they 9' >>>D-clones, by any chance?  Circa 1933?  I would love to know whether there >>>are pins beneath those aliquots.  It sounds as though there aren't.  If you >>>say they're not supposed to be tuned to sevenths (not ninths, actually), >>>then the plates must have been moved. >>> >>>Also, do you know the original string diameters throughuot the tenor and >>>treble?  Avery Todd sent me some measurements on a Steinway D which >>I'll use >>>as a first-order approximation in the absence of any other data. >>> >>>Thanks for any info you can provide! >>> >>>Peace, >>>Sarah >>></BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>