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face=Arial> Just a humble gift to a=
ttempt to repay to all who given so&nb=
sp;freely their daily advise concerning ou=
r "craft and sullen art" this year. Th=
e analogy is, pitchadjustment is playing pi=
n the tail on the donkey ...except the=
donkey is on a carousel. H &nbs=
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mmer voicing is bobbing for apples.</FONT></DIV>=
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hubert Liverman</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tune4u@earthlink.net =
href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">Alan
Barnard</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 22, =
2005 12:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's Get This =
Settled was
How to explain a pitchadjustment..and!</DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>It always frightens me to think there is anyone =
else out
there with my sense of humor! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>As an employee of mine once said: "Alan, your mind =
is always
traveling about Warp 8 ... but do you have any idea where it's
headed?"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>I had to answer, "No."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>Alan Barnard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=3>Salem, Missouri</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=koko99@shaw.ca href="mailto:koko99@shaw.ca">carl =
teplitski</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A =
title=tune4u@earthlink.net
href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">tune4u@earthlink.net</A>;<A
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 12/22/2005 11:08:30 =
AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let's Get This =
Settled
was How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><BR>Hey Allan . =
.
laughed so loud my wife came into my office to see who was in here =
with
me, or whatinell <BR>I was doing, after I read your opening =
statement,
(ain't challingin nobody on nuttin ). My old heart =
skipped<BR>a
couple of beats, and can't get the dumb smile off my face.( =
Priceless
humor. Thank you.) Not only that,but<BR>you make alot of sense =
with your
other remarks as well. Looking to reading more about this =
subject ,
because<BR>it's one that requires some imagination , to be able to =
convey
to a none tech. what actually happens when we<BR>pitch =
raise. I use
the one re. paint on a plaster wall. If a plaster wall =
hasn't seen
paint for 20 years , the first coat<BR>will probably be sucked =
into the
wall very quickly, so a 2nd. and sometimes a 3rd. coat is necssary =
to
finally<BR>reach the correct color. Problem here is that many =
people can't
understand that international music has a standard,! <BR>and =
pianos are
engineered to sound their best at that pitch. It does take some =
effort on
our part to try to educate<BR>the public , and a lot guys get =
tired of
going thru this harangue each time they find a piano needing pitch =
correction,<BR>so they can justify charging for the extra work in =
going
thru a least two passes, rather than one. I know I =
do.<BR><BR>Carl /
Winnipeg<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Alan =
Barnard
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid410-220051232142441781@earthlink.net =
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Terry's post begs the question (and please =
understand I ain't challingin'
nobody on nuttin' ... I'm just seeking information and opinions and
science, here) ...
Do a piano really need time to "settle" after ..
1. Big pitch change?
2. Small pitch change?
3. Moving it across country? (other than environmental acclimation)
4 Moving it across the room?
I have been under the impression--and it may be altogether wacky--that
every change that is going to occur in the piano occurs immediatly upon
cranking the pin. I thought someone (Dr. Sanderson, perhaps) tested this
and proved it.
So an adjunct question: Let's say we find a piano 15 cents flat. We =
pitch
correct and fine tune and walk out the door with a follow-up appointment
set for three months. When that day arrives, for those who have set such
appointments, is the piano any flatter or more sour than it would have =
been
if we found it A440 but still came back in three months?
Same question, only now the piano was originally 35 cents flat. 60 =
cents?
120 cents?
Certainly I've restrung pianos and found them pretty sick in a couple of
months but have always attributed that to new wire stretch, not tension
settling.
Helmet on, raincoat on, rubber duckie in hand, I await your missives, if
not missiles ...
Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">[Original Message]
From: pianolover 88 <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href="mailto:pianolover88@hotmail.com"><pianolover88@hotmail.com>=
</A>
To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E =
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></A>
Date: 12/20/2005 6:24:24 PM
Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!
Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I always schedule
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->a
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">"follow-up" tuning in =
1-3 months, explaining that after restoring all
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->that
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">loststring tension, the =
piano now must "settle" and adjust to that added
tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the follow-up is crucial
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->in
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">building long term =
stabilty. And that tuning will leave the piano much
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->more
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">stable because tuning =
pin movement will be much smaller than during the
initial PR and tuning. Again, never a problem. Yes, it does help to have
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->a
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">high confidence level =
and be able to effectively communicate and impart
information to your client in a clearand concice manner. I am a salesman
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->as
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">well as a technician; =
that has made the difference between just getting
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->by
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">to making a six =
figures.
Terry Peterson
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
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