<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type = content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY text=#000000 bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Tom,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think we are talking different ideas, = and then mayby not. Sounds a little like Virgil Smith. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What I am wondering is if the effective = termination point has changed for the coupled strings. And also if this is so does = this raise the inharmonic values of the string like the stiffness at the = termination points does.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tcole@cruzio.com href="mailto:tcole@cruzio.com">Thomas = Cole</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2004 = 8:26 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: pitchlock followup = 1 wed or Devorced</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Joe,<BR><BR>After tuning each of the coupled strings = separately using an ETD, I find that the pitch drops significantly when playing = the coupled strings together. You have to anticipate this drop therefore = (guess), by tuning these strings individually to a higher pitch and check the = result. That done, you can tune the uncoupled third string to the resultant = pitch of the other two.<BR><BR>Tom Cole<BR><BR>Joe And Penny Goss wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid008801c44d91$92f2d140$ef37bbd0@setup00 = type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Hi Jason, You provoke a thought. Has any one measured the difference of the pitch of a single string = coupled and then uncoupled? Wed or devorced?<G> Joe Goss <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated = href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jason kanter" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com"><jkanter@rollingball.com></= A> To: "Pianotech" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></A> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: Re: pitchlock followup 1 </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Definitely try different = positionings for the coupler. It seems obvious </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">that </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">if the coupler is in, say, = somewhere in the middle of the speaking length, it will impede vibrations and be a source of interference depending on </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">where </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">it sits (right on a node, = etc.) Likewise if it is right at a termination, </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">it </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">is bound to interfere with = the behavior at the termination point. || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| jason kanter . piano tuning/regulation/repair bellevue, wa . 425 562 4127 . cell 425 831 1561 orcas island . 360 376 2799 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Shuster" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:741662027@theshusters.org"><741662027@theshusters.org&g= t;</A> To: "Pianotech" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></A> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: Re: pitchlock followup 1 </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">How true! <G> Just as an experiment, the first thing I'd try is to couple strings 2 = & </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">3, </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">and then add a coupler on = 1 & 2. Would that dampen #2 too much? What </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">if </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">you put the other coupler = near the hitch pin? I know -- I should follow the protocol, and just try it, and report back when I'm done... Maybe I'll grab some in Nashville. --Cy Shuster-- Bluefield, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Nossaman" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net"><rnossaman@cox.net></A> To: "Pianotech" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><pianotech@ptg.org></A> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: Re: pitchlock followup 1 </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Cy, Not saying that it can not be done. I just wonder with all the </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">differences </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">in notching, if one = coupler could ever be made to cover all the </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE = wrap="">varying </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">different situations. Joe Goss </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">If there is, I have a = suggestion what to call it - a bridge... <G> Ron N </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE = wrap="">_______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE = wrap="">_______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""> _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>